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Re: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge sender rebuild

To: Charles Hubbard <charlie@hubco.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge sender rebuild
From: Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:32:43 -0500
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The wire is usually bare. I looked on line & found http://jacobs-online.biz.=
 The wire is the same as what you need. Other than the ohms/foot you can use=
 the wire size to figure out which nichrome wire you need. You can contact t=
hem to be sure.=20

An easy way to space the wire turns equally is to wind another wire of the a=
ppropriate size to space out the nichrome wire, then remove the extra wire.=20=


Let us know how it turns out.=20

Peace,
Pat

On Sep 1, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Charles Hubbard <charlie@hubco.com> wrote:

Thanks for the tip.  Yes, it is a unique part for that year 1964. Does the r=
esistor wire that Nissan used have some sort of coating.  I ask because I sa=
w a write-up for a VW bus where they were re-winding their sender.  It said t=
hat the windings can't touch. Their example had much bigger wire, used epoxy=
 to hold the windings in place and had a few millimeters of spacing between w=
indings.
=20
Respectfully,
=20
Charlie Hubbard
HUBCo Communications, Inc.
W: 469.293.3081
M: 214.507.5569
www.hubco.com
charlie@hubco.com
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=20
From: Pat Horne [mailto:patintexas@icloud.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Charles Hubbard <charlie@hubco.com>
Cc: Datsun roadster list <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge sender rebuild
=20
Charlie,
=20
The wire is not copper, but a resistance wire. I think it is only connected o=
n one end. I suppose the wiper is grounded. I am not familiar w/1500s so it m=
ay be different. You should be able to measure the resistance of a length of=
 the wire, convert it to ohms/foot & find some replacement. Is the sender di=
fferent from the 1600 sender?
=20
Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity
=20

On Sep 1, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roa=
dsters@autox.team.net> wrote:

Has anyone ever rebuilt the copper winding on a 1964 1500 fuel gauge?  The w=
ire from the winding broke off my tank sender.  I ended up soldering it back=
 onto the windings and believe that it used to be a solid strand of copper f=
rom end to end.  Since the winding is the connection between the ground and t=
he gauge, I do not believe that the long end of the winding grounds to the h=
ousing.  The 1500 is a positive ground and grounding the wire from the gauge=
 pegs it full.  Unlike later years, there is no resistor between the sender a=
nd the gauge on a 1500.  A dab of solder now goes across sever of the windin=
gs.  The most that the gauge will  show now is 1/2 full.  At least it's not s=
howing 1/2 empty!  ;-)
=20
Any ideas on how to go about this and what wire to use would be appreciated.=

=20
Respectfully,
=20
Charlie Hubbard
1964 SPL310 1500
=20
=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; 
charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The wire is usually bare. I looked 
on line &amp; found&nbsp;<a 
href="http://jacobs-online.biz/about.htm";>http://jacobs-online.biz</a>. The 
wire is the same as what you need. Other than the ohms/foot you can use the 
wire size to figure out which nichrome wire you need. You can contact them to 
be sure.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>An easy way to space the wire turns 
equally is to wind another wire of the appropriate size to space out the 
nichrome wire, then remove the extra wire.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Let 
us know how it turns 
out.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><br>On Sep 
1, 2016, at 6:15 PM, Charles Hubbard &lt;<a 
href="mailto:charlie@hubco.com";>charlie@hubco.com</a>&gt; 
wrote:<br><br></div><div>

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style="mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times
 New Roman&quot;">Thanks for the tip.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>Yes, it is a unique part for that year 1964. Does the resistor wire that 
Nissan used have some sort of
<span class="GramE">coating.</span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; 
</span>I ask because I saw a write-up for a VW bus where they were re-winding 
their sender.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>It said that the windings can't touch. Their example had much bigger 
wire, used epoxy to hold the windings in place and had a few millimeters of 
spacing between windings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">W: 469.293.3081<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">M: 214.507.5569<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes"><a href="www.gohubco.com"><span 
style="color:#0563C1">www.hubco.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes"><a href="mailto:chubbard@gohubco.com";><span 
style="color:#0563C1">charlie@hubco.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">&lt;image003.png&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times 
New Roman&quot;"> Pat Horne [<a 
href="mailto:patintexas@icloud.com";>mailto:patintexas@icloud.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 01, 2016 5:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Charles Hubbard &lt;<a 
href="mailto:charlie@hubco.com";>charlie@hubco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Datsun roadster list &lt;<a 
href="mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] Fuel gauge sender rebuild<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;">Charlie,</span><span 
style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;">The wire is not copper, but a resistance wire. I think it is only 
connected on one end. I suppose the wiper is grounded. I am not familiar 
w/1500s so it may be different. You should
 be able to measure the resistance of a length of the wire, convert it to 
ohms/foot &amp; find some replacement. Is the sender different from the 1600 
sender?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;">Peace,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;">Pat<br>
<br>
Pat Horne&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;">We support Caldwell County Habitat for 
Humanity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Roman&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"><br>
On Sep 1, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Charles Hubbard via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a 
href="mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
 wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Has anyone ever rebuilt the copper winding on a 1964 
1500 fuel gauge?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>The wire from the winding broke off my tank sender.<span 
style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>I ended up soldering it back onto the windings and believe that it used 
to be a solid strand of copper from end to end.<span 
style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>Since the winding is the connection between the ground and the gauge, I 
do not believe that the long end of the winding grounds to the housing.<span 
style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>The 1500 is a positive ground and grounding the wire from the gauge pegs 
it full.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>Unlike later years, there is no resistor between the sender and the 
gauge on a 1500.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>A dab of solder now goes across sever of the windings.<span 
style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>The most that the gauge will<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp; 
</span>show now is 1/2 full.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;
</span>At least it's not showing 1/2 empty! <span 
style="mso-spacerun:yes">&nbsp;</span>;-)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Any ideas on how to go about this and what wire to use 
would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">Respectfully,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">Charlie Hubbard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">1964 SPL310 1500</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:&quot;Times New 
Roman&quot;;mso-no-proof:yes">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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