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<font size="+1"><font face="Trebuchet MS">No question the stock
brakes "work fine"<font face="Trebuchet MS">, </font>but that
shouldn't be confused with <font face="Trebuchet MS">providing
driver-<font face="Trebuchet MS">desired front/rear
b</font></font>alance.
<font face="Trebuchet MS">Tilton and others have created an
industry to <font face="Trebuchet MS">try to satisfy the
quest<font face="Trebuchet MS"> </font>for ideal,
selectable brake balance. Another fixed method<font
face="Trebuchet MS"> </font>is to alter the cylinder
size.<br>
<br>
<font face="Trebuchet MS">- <font face="Trebuchet MS">Bob
Mann, '68 2000 Solex, </font><font face="Trebuchet
MS">Porterfield
<font face="Trebuchet MS">R4-S pads, want more rear
bias... <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/8/2015 3:35 PM, Richard Shepard
via Datsun-roadsters wrote:<br>
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<div>When I took my Roadster to a SCCA track nite at Portland
the stock bakes sucked big time. But then the speed I was
pulling with a KA did not help. Changed fronts to a street
comp pad and did it help. Car now stops were it slowed down
before.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441740286429_4978" dir="ltr">I use
KFP gold compound and find they work on the street just for
me as well as the track. Did have to grind down to fit as
they were too wide.</div>
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face="Arial"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Gary Ault via Datsun-roadsters
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Re: [Roadsters] Brakes Phil Erickson<br>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441740286429_4783">So, there
you go. Thanks, Paul.</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441740286429_4780">Gary</div>
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Date: 09/08/2015 6:04 AM (GMT-06:00) <br>
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Brakes Phil Erickson <br>
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<div> I've crewed for three roadsters, two 1600s
in SCCA G PROD and one 2000 racing the vintage
circuit. All ran with stock brakes, but with
racing pads up front. They all seemed to stop
just fine!<br>
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<div class="yiv3742972722gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 8,
2015 at 12:14 AM, Gary and Cindy Ault via
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<div dir="ltr"><span>I have found that stock
roadster brakes, properly set up and
adjusted, work just fine in non-racing
applications. I have both early (1966)
and later (1967-1/2) cars. I have had
the '66 1600 with a U20 motor in it for
over 40 years.</span></div>
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Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:39 PM<br>
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[Roadsters] Brakes Phil Erickson<br>
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<div dir="ltr"> I tried to send
this, but from the wrong
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<div dir="ltr">It's very
difficult to guess on the
braking response of a wheel
cylinder size change on a disc
/ drum set-up.<br>
The response / braking torque
to pressure is Linear with
disc brakes and squared or
even cubed with drum brakes.
Best to use a proportioning
valve on the rear to limit
braking torque.<br>
A proportioning valve is miss
named as it changes the
pressure response to pedal
travel - which flattens the
torque response of the drum
brake.</div>
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