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Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup

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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup
From: Embarq Customer <andycost@embarqmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:09:47 -0400 (EDT)
Here is the info on the strange panhard setup thanks to the original owner who
was located on the CP list.



http://50mustangsuperfords.automotive.com/42513/15419-contex-ultra-sport-susp
ension-system/index.html



Andy




----- Original Message -----
From: "steve newby" <csp541983rx7@yahoo.com>
To: "Andy Cost" <andycost@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 3:32:32 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup




looks more like an odd cross between a watts link and a J Bar or pan hard, the
pivots moveB  like a watts.

I do know that roll center is drastically affected by the pivot length an
swing length of a JBar. Shorter bars exacerbate this effect, it appears that
the builder was trying to solve a space issue by artificially lengthening the
jbar (the pivot on the drivers side would have the effect of about doubling
the length of the bar), the bulk of the rest of it appears to be mostly
bracing and support. but that would be a bitch to tune as the variables would
be WAY more complex and you don't have the easy way of just moving the
mounting points up and down. unless the pass side ALSO pivots, in which case
I'm not sure HOW it would work as the center seems to be fixed. moving the
center holes would partially have the same effect of moving the bar mounting
points, but it would not be linear. on a car like the roadster the straight
jbar is the better choice, its simple and you have lots of room to work with,
plus you have minimal vertical chassis movement which make a jbar easier to
balance.

Also that looks like it weighs a TON!!

If your considering a panhard keeping it a close to level from side to side as
possible and having minimal vertical movement is best. roll center can be
tuned to a small degree by building multiple holes or a threaded pertch that
allows you to tune it (ala NASCAR)

--- On Sat, 10/24/09, Andy Cost <andycost@embarqmail.com> wrote:



From: Andy Cost <andycost@embarqmail.com>
Subject: [Roadsters] CP mustang project with strange panhard setup
To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 6:53 PM


Anyone recognize this weird panhard bar?B  It is on an 88 mustang.B  The
panhard bar is up high and there are two pivoting links at either end.B  The
links are tied to a point near the bottom of the diff.B  The angle of the
links is adjustable.B  I'm not sure what brand this is or even how it works.


http://image68.webshots.com/468/4/7/1/2157407010065431685cSbZDr_fs.jpg


http://image96.webshots.com/196/1/68/85/2610168850065431685LhrfEc_fs.jpg



Thanks,



Andy

BTW - Bucephalus might be going bye-bye.
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