Ditto
Mike Harper
Charleston SC
--- sidney raper <spl310@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The developments on the list over the past few
> months concern me. We have
> lost folks for a variety of reasons. Like any list,
> there is always flux,
> but I have to say that some of the folks that have
> left the list are a huge
> loss to the Roadster community. Mark Dent leaving
> would be a huge loss. I
> sincerely hope that he reconsiders.
>
> Mark has a true love of these cars. Anyone that has
> ever talked to him will
> know that immediately. He is one of the most
> helpful Roadster guys that I
> have ever met. I think that it is phenomenal that
> Mark and Charlie (as well
> as Michael before them) put for the effort to create
> the calendars. Those
> years are gone, but those calendars remain with me
> as cherished motivators
> to help get one of my cars on the road.
>
> When I found out that shirts were in the offing, I
> was pretty excited. I
> never liked the run of the mill T shirts that are so
> common, so I never buy
> those. (only wear T shirts to work in the yard or
> on the car, so they are
> not something I spend money on) Golf shirts (Polo
> Shirts) are a different
> matter. I think that it would be great to have a
> FairLady golf shirt. All
> the better if it matches my car! I was surprised,
> (not overly, as I will
> explain in a minute) that there were folks on the
> list that had to find
> fault with the idea. This was not an effort to make
> money (check out the
> setup costs, embroidery costs, shirt costs and the
> shipping costs for such a
> minuscule order and you can see that he would not
> make money) by Mark, but
> an effort to recognize the FairLady as we know and
> love them (sorry Edgar
> G.- yours is one of the originals, but the body
> changed....)
>
> While it was somewhat surprising to hear the
> complaints about colors of the
> shirts and the efforts of others on the list to
> apparently subvert the
> efforts of Mark, it was not wholly so. As most of
> you know, Tim Waltz and I
> teamed up to make up some ID tags. These are NLA
> from Nissan (but were
> available over the counter for years), and many cars
> have tags that are butt
> ugly from being painted over, having acid spilled on
> them, holes drilled in
> them and so forth. A lot of cars are missing them
> altogether. I thought
> that it was great that Tim and I could provide an
> item (esoteric yes) that
> could cap off a restoration. No sooner had we
> posted the note, and I
> started getting slammed by a couple of folks - off
> list. I was accused of
> being in collusion with car thieves and of being a
> felon. All of that grief
> over some scraps of aluminum with printing on them.
> I can relate to Mark's
> feeling.
>
> In the past, I used to be very free with
> information, advice and
> suggestions. I have grown weary of being bashed for
> the information that I
> post to the list (BTW, I can verify that what I have
> posted is accurate
> regardless what the bashers may indicate) so I now
> typically reply to the
> individual - if I reply at all. I feel a bit bad in
> not being more forth
> coming, but it gets old being slammed for trying to
> help. I know that I am
> not alone in that thought as a number of the folks
> that are no longer on the
> list (and a few that still are) have commiserated
> with me regarding that
> very issue.
>
> I had thought of signing off of the list too. The
> list seems to have
> wandered away from being "about the cars" to being
> about personal egos and
> one-upmanship. I know that the list tends to flow
> from being very technical
> (almost to the point of boring some folks) to being
> very social (to the
> frustration of those that lurk looking for nuggets
> of knowledge) and I can
> accept those flows. They are why I have stayed on
> as long as I have. I
> have learned a lot - and hope that I have given back
> as much or more. But I
> have also been stung quite a few times.
>
> I know that I have changed the minds of some folks
> who were looking to ditch
> their roadsters. That is a good feeling. I have
> helped folks all over the
> world with parts from cars that I reluctantly parted
> out. Knowing that I
> was helping keep other cars on the road made it
> easier to decide to chop the
> cars. I have put buyers and sellers together (with
> no benefit being
> returned to me by the way) just to keep the cars
> going. But the negativity
> and the backbiting are getting very old and
> tiresome. I will remain on the
> list for now and I will hope that the tide turns
> again. I miss those that
> have left, and welcome those that have joined - and
> challenge everyone on
> the list to make it the best that it can be.
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> Sidney Raper
> 1964 1500
> 1967 SRL311 00060
> 1967 SRL311 00076
> Jacksonville Florida
> http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html
>
>
>
>
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