Marc,
I understand your misgivings about why a club representing a particular
model would open it's doors to other models. I wondered the same thing
myself when I joined ZONC a couple years ago and brought my roadster to
meetings dominated by Z's. There doesn't seem to be a roadster club around
with the clout and organization that ZONC has here in California. So that's
one reason I joined.
I've heard a little grumbling about permitting 510's to join in, and I can
see that 510 owners have alternative clubs to turn to for support. But I've
also heard that 510 clubs may be having problems with dwindling members, so
possibly there are 510 owners that are looking for alternatives and ZONC
might be what they seek.
My hope is that ZONC someday becomes an all-Datsun club. Whether they will
change their name in the future isn't important to me. What is important is
that they are welcoming other models like our roadsters and 510's to join in
on fun events. If it doesn't work out, it's our choice whether we stay in or
stay away.
Fred Katz - So.SF
P.S. Me and Annie had a great time at the membership meeting at the
Blackhawk museum. Not often that our cars are on display among classics; it
was surreal.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Sayer" <marcsayer@home.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Blackhawk Nissan/Datsun Show
> We went through a similar phase with the MG model specific clubs about 20
years
> ago. The MGA club and the MGTD clubs both realized that memberships were
down
> and they could not support themselves without also including the "other"
MGs. So
> they "allowed" MGBs and MGCs, etc., to be members of "their" club. They
didn't
> get it when many of us "other" MG owners (who were members of a thriving
all-MG
> club) didn't fall all over ourselves to join their TD or A club. I thought
that
> was BS then and this sounds like just the same sort of S to me. Why would
a club
> that has a specific model of car in its name want to invite owners of
other cars
> to be members? And why would a Roadster or 510 owner want to belong to a
"Z"
> club? And yes, it is a Z club, the initials ZONC stand for Z Owners Of
Northern
> California. If they *really* want to be an all-Datsun club, let them
change
> their name. If they'd start calling themselves the Datsun Owners Club of
> Northern California, or some such thing, then I'd buy that it was really a
club
> for all Datsuns. Now it just feels like a load of BS.
>
> And no, I have nothing against ZONC. I know and like many ZONC members,
and as a
> Z owner, I would probably join them if I lived in Northern California. But
as a
> 510 owner I certainly wouldn't. I'd join NorCal, the 510 club as a 510
owner.
> Either way, if there was an all-Datsun club, I'd prefer to join it.
Cooperation
> amongst marque clubs is one thing. I wholeheartedly support inter club
> cooperation. But why would I want to join any club that obviously prefers
some
> other model of car over mine, and makes that point by including that other
model
> in their club name?
>
>
> Just my opine, YMMV. :-)
>
> Marc Sayer
>
> CalSpeed@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Other news, there were some folks that signed up to be a member of ZONC
> > today. ZONC has opened all memberships to 510's now. Roadsters were
> > excepted a few years ago. (Thank you very much!) I encourage all
Datsun
> > enthusiasts to become ZONC members. It is a growing club with nominal
annual
> > dues and a very nice monthly news letter. ZONC is recognized as one of
the
> > leading Z Clubs in the States and we have lots of connections directly
to
> > Nissan in Japan. We hold lots of events and as you can see we are
getting
> > some great exposure.
> >
> > Big things are ahead for ZONC so you might as well be a part of it too.
>
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