How about - "opinion (noun) 1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds
insufficient to
produce certainty."
All I'm saying is that the reading I have done suggests that there is no
physical or
physiological justification for the use of yellow lights, in preference to
white, for fog
lamps. If there is research that proves the contrary case, I'd be interested in
reading it
and learning why that might be so.
I'm only interested in the facts.
Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
Daniel Beatty wrote:
> G,
>
> Webster's defines "IMHO ~ in my humble opinion" as: 1 a : a view, judgment,
> or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter
>
> I would be interested in reading a direct comparison from a company like
> Hella or PIAA myself, but I am only going on what I have formed in my mind
> from experience with yellow and white late at night.
>
> DGB
> NOWROCer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary McCormick <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>
> To: Daniel Beatty <daniel_beatty@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Fog Lights
>
> > I'd be interested in any reference to factual material that would back up
> your opinion
> > regarding yellow lamps.
> >
> > Gary McCormick
> > San Jose, CA
> >
> > Daniel Beatty wrote:
> >
> > > interesting.
> > >
> > > my solution...increase the intensity of yellow.
> > >
> > > my opinion.. yellow seems to be less reflective.
> > >
> > > My thanks
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Gary McCormick <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>
> > > To: Daniel Beatty <daniel_beatty@hotmail.com>
> > > Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 4:29 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Fog Lights
> > >
> > > > Bosch Automotive Handbook, 2nd Edition; pg. 587: "Most fog lamps
> produce
> > > white light.
> > > > There is no physiologically justifiable advantages in yellow light."
> > > >
> > > > At most, I'd say that the reduced intensity of the beam from a yellow
> lamp
> > > results in
> > > > reduced glare compared to the same bulb if it weren't filtered through
> a
> > > yellow lens, but
> > > > the effect is the result of a reduction in the amount of light going
> out,
> > > not from the
> > > > color.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Beatty wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Gary,
> > > > >
> > > > > Your comment concerning white vs amber/yellow is contrary to many
> > > people's
> > > > > and manufacturer's beliefs. Please explain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel Beatty
> > > > > 65 1600 Hella/PIAA 90/130(amber lows/white highs) & 130 watt drivers
> > > > > 70 DATTO wagon Hella/PIAA 80/110 (amber low/white high) & 100 highs
> > > > > "never enough candlewatts on a twisted, wet night."
> > > > >
> > > > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > > > From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> > > > > Reply-To: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
> > > > > To: "Gary McCormick" <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>,
> > > > > <Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us>
> > > > > CC: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Fog Lights
> > > > > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:35:00 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > > Gary,
> > > > >
> > > > > But they look cool and you can actually see that they are
> working!!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Gary McCormick" <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>
> > > > > To: <Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us>
> > > > > Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 3:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Fog Lights
> > > > >
> > > > > > The amber lenses do nothing to increase the effectiveness of the
> lamp
> > > in
> > > > > fog. You are
> > > > > > better off with a good bright white lamp with a sharp top cutoff,
> > > > > properly
> > > > > aimed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gary McCormick
> > > > > > San Jose, CA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have the JC Whitless fog lamps on my '70 1600. Cost was under
> $30
> > > > > > > including 2 lamps and the relay. Extremely easy to install and
> > > hookup
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > run off the existing dash control knob. At the time I bought
> them 2
> > > > > years
> > > > > > > ago they were $24 or $25 but might cost more now. Mine are
> amber
> > > lenses
> > > > > > > (real foglamps, not driving lights).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fred - So.SF
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _________________________ Reply Separator
> > > ___________________________
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: Fog Lights
> > > > > > > Author: bob_wilson@agilent.com
> > > > > > > Date: 1/8/2001 8:37 AM
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do these fog lights help out much? Do many of you listees have
> fog
> > > > > lights?
> > > > > > > I live in the Santa Cruz mountains and every Fall (especially
> in
> > > > > November)
> > > > > > > the fog gets thick sometimes and I would like some good fog
> lights.
> > > > > Just
> > > > > > > wondered if there are some good recomendations on lights that
> might
> > > fit
> > > > > into
> > > > > > > the two holes in front. I have a '70 1600.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob Wilson s/n 28383
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Fred Davidson [mailto:fred.davidson@sympatico.ca]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 9:56 AM
> > > > > > > To: R Haug
> > > > > > > Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Fog Lights
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > R Haug wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > > > > I would like to thank all of the people who have helped with
> info
> > > the
> > > > > > > > past year.
> > > > > > > > Hope the next year will bring my roadster into the driving
> stage.
> > > > > > > > I am getting a photo point site up soon so you can at least
> see
> > > my
> > > > > > > > chassis.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would like to know how to tell if I have the original fog
> > > lights
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > the roadster.
> > > > > > > > Are there any markings on the metal body/housing or on the
> > > lenses.
> > > > > My
> > > > > > > > lenses are yellow.
> > > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > > > 67.5 x 2
> > > > > > > > Moscow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regarding your original fog lamp question. I have a set NOS in
> > > Nissan
> > > > > > > boxes. The lens size is 5 1/4", the whole front is glass, the
> lens
> > > has
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > script E W in the centre, fog lens with yellow bulb , the mount
> is
> > > > > > > attached to the lens case by 4 rivets on the back, all chrome,
> two
> > > > > wires
> > > > > > > (red with blue stripe & black), part #26150-09401.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope this helps!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fred
> > > > > > > '69 2000 solex SRL31112932
> > > > >
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