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RE: British Cars Digest #1449 Wed Nov 16 16:31:38 MST 1994

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Subject: RE: British Cars Digest #1449 Wed Nov 16 16:31:38 MST 1994
From: Ray James <rwj4123@sigma.tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 94 17:41:45 PST
(sorry if this thread has already been beaten to death; I'm still 9 days behind 
in 
reading the postings)---on the subject of fishtailing trailers,

>Ray Gibbons writes"This is almost guaranteed to cause fishtailing.  When you 
>load the
>trailer, load it so that you maintain at least 10% of the total weight on
>the tongue.  When towing a car, this generally would mean having the
>middle of the car somewhat forward of the trailer axle(s) and the engine
>of the car in the front of the trailer. "

He's right--and I think the best way to put it is to make sure that the mass 
center 
(center of gravity) of the trailer+payload is forward of the trailer axle.  (If 
dual 
axle, I don't know exactly what is required for stability).  I believe that 
problem to 
be similar to that of tricycle vs conventional (tail wheel) landing gear on 
aircraft. 
 The (older) tailwheel variety are prone to the unstable behavior known as 
ground 
looping.  Cause of that instability is fact that the mass center is aft of the 
main 
(front) gear.  The (newer) tricycle gear (nose gear) aircraft have mass center 
fwd of 
main gear, and are stable on rollout.  A free-body diagram (plan view) during 
rollout 
(assuming a small crab angle) will convince you that this instablity 
exists--the 
restoring moment is in opposite directions in the two cases.  Same principle 
applies 
to the trailer if loaded so that the mass center is aft of the axle.

Note that if some dunderhead loads the (single axle) trailer so that the mass 
center 
is behind the axle, then tries to hook it up to the car, he will realize that 
something is amiss--has to push the tongue down to connect.  But if the hitch 
is 
already connected and the lbc/new deepfreeze/hoss is loaded into the aft 
portion of 
the trailer, it isn't so obvious.  The subsequent behavior of the trailer may 
be 
obvious though, and can and has caused seriour accidents.


Move ole dobbin forward, Ray.


A reminder--someone pointed out earler that there would be some vintage car 
races 
sunday 27 Nov. at 5:00 pm (time zone?) on ESPN.


Best regards, and happy turkey day!

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Name: Ray W. James
Texas Transportation Institute
Civil Engineering Department, Texas A&M University
E-mail: Ray James <rwj4123@sigma.tamu.edu>
Date: 11/22/94
Time: 17:41:45
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