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RE: British Cars Digest #1040 Wed Dec 22 01:15:00 MST 1993

To: british-cars@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: British Cars Digest #1040 Wed Dec 22 01:15:00 MST 1993
From: "ALFIE::MRGATE::\"A1::FELTS1\""@ID5.AL.ALCOA.COM
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 11:27:03 -0500 (EST)
From:   NAME: Tom L. Felts                  
        FUNC: SFTY (38)                       
        TEL: 412-337-2024                     <FELTS1@A1@ALFIE>
To:     NAME: VMSMail User SMTP%"british-car 
<SMTP%"british-cars@autox.team.net"@MRGATE>


For Steve Beck (E-Type Jag--what am I getting into?)

Steve, I'm making an assumption you have never owned an "E" before----

1. They are expensive to repair--unless you are a do it yourself--even 
then, parts are costly
2. The 2+2 "isn't a convertible---its' value isn't the as high
3. Automatic trans-------I've never had one in a Jag so can't comment; 
however in my opinion automatic trans don't belong in "sports cars".

The price sounds great to me, but only you can decide if it's worth 2 MG's.

I would have it checked closely for any bent or damaged or rusty frame 
rails---these basically hold the car up, and everything hangs off them so 
if they are not good forget it or be ready to spend $700-$800 a piece for 
them. Check the picture frame for damage and rust also.

You will hear many comments from the not too well informed that you can't 
keep the carbs in tune.  I ran my first one (a 66 rdstr) for 5 years and 
never had this problem.  They (I think the 70 has) SU HD8 carbs which are 
the same as the later Healeys (I have a 65 BJ8 Healey) and have not had a 
problem with them.  Depends on how well maintained and adjusted they are.

Because of my love of the "E", I am now at the 1/2 way point of a total 
restoration of another 66 rdstr.  I haven't let little things like $$ stop 
me---it's an emotional thing!

So, if you just have to have it, the price seems OK.  Let an "expert" look 
at it, and check the rails.

Good luck!

Tom Felts


From  rwg1@cornell.edu Tue Sep 11 12:00:01 2001
From: (Roger Garnett) rwg1@cornell.edu
To: (British Cars) british-cars@autox.team.net
Date:          Wed, 22 Dec 1993 13:03:08 
Subject:       Companies on the List - The Guidlines

Here's hopefully the final word on companies on the list. I'm putting it on 
the archive server as is, and if anyone has further comments, please send 
them directly to me rather than the whole list. If you know of any 
companies who might be interested in joing the list, please give/send them a 
copy.

Roger Garnett  (Roger-Garnett@cornell.edu)

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The British Cars Mailing list, an intro for companies.  12/22/93

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other technical issues.

-Access on-line file servers with archives of past discussions, 
parts & technical information, graphics images, and more.




From  rwg1@cornell.edu Tue Sep 11 12:00:01 2001
From: (Roger Garnett) rwg1@cornell.edu
To: (British Cars) british-cars@autox.team.net
Date:          Wed, 22 Dec 1993 13:11:46 
Subject:       SOL Archive Server

Here's an updated copy of README.SOL, reflecting the new server status.
Roger
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Files on the British-cars file servers and how to get them: Rev. 12/16/93  
RG
This file is posted to the list Lucas fashion- randomly.

The file servers are machines where various archives and articles of
interest are stored. You may get copies via "anonymous FTP", or by E-mail.
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A) FTP
If your machine has an internet connection, and runs the file transfer
program FTP, you've got what you need. Read your local manual/help on
using FTP.

1) Run FTP on your local machine, opening a connection to
    triumph.cs.utah.edu  (155.99.208.4)
2) Connect as user "anonymous", and use your name as the password.
3) Change to directory /pub/sol. (cd /pub/sol)
4) You may list the files using FTP's dir or ls commands to see files.
5) Set the file type to binary using the binary or image command if
   you're going to get something other than plain text files.
   (Like GIF's, or programs)
6) Use get or mget to one or multiple files.
7) Exit with the bye or quit command when done.
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B) E-Mail server
Can't run FTP? If you can send and receive mail, you may also retreive
archives via an E-Mail server run by TJ Higgins. There are many more 
seperate
articles in the misc directory of this server thanon hoosier.
To get instructions, send E-mail to:

   Standard Internet Addressing:  server@ingr.com
or
   UUCP Addressing:  ...!uunet!ingr!server

with /HELP in the body of the message. The server will then send you the
help file with further instructions. (To your From: or Reply-To: address).
The SOL files are in the drectory pub2/sol/misc, pub2/sol/pic, and
pub2/sol/digest.
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C) WAIS (This service is currently un-available)
   Triumph is running an experimental WAIS server. (triumph.cs.utah.edu,
   155.99.208.4 port 210  Databases- sol, autocross, datsun). This is a 
   networked database index/search/retreive system. You can access this 
   if you have a WAIS client on your local machine.
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D) WWW (This service is currently un-available)
   There is an expermental WWW (World Wide Web) link to the anonymous FTP
   archives on triumph.cs.utah.edu.  You can get to this at:

old  <A HREF=http://infotech.indiana.edu:80/will/b-cars.html>
new  <A HREF=http://www.law.indiana.edu:80/misc/b-cars.html>
   If you aren't familiar with WWW, it is pretty darn keen.  There is
   a windows client called Cello and available from
   fatty.law.cornell.edu in /pub/LII/Cello.

   If you have X you can use XMosaic.  It is available from ftp.ncsa.
   uiuc.edu/WEB/xmosaic
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Archive Contents
Highlites of what is available (this is not a full index):
README.SOL           -This file. (Note: capital letters- FTP is
                      case sensitive.
DECODERS.DOC         -Brief explanation of file compression and
                      some sources of extractor programs.
welcome.sol          -Welcome and introduction to british-cars.
company.sol          -Guidlines for companies on the british-cars list.
britparts_vendors.ascii -British and other parts suppliers list- Phil Ethier
survey.91            -1991 Survey of "our cars".
survey.92            -1992 survey of "our cars".
survey.93            -1993 survey of "our cars".
landrover.ascii      -Land-Rovers: Introduction and buyers guide.
gt6.ascii            -Triumph GT6: Introduction and buyers guide.
lotus.history        -Listing of Lotus car models by type number.
rover_3.5L.V8.text.z -History of Rover 3.5 litre engine
fluids.cht           -List of appropriate fluids to use in British cars. RG
paint.cod            -Misc. Engine & acc. paint codes.
mg_paint.txt         -Paint codes list, 1961-80 MG's
su-tune.tek          -"Tuning Your SU Carbs" by Roger Garnett
clutch.tek           -Clutch Operation -R. Garnett
sfisher_on_british_cars.text.Z  -almost 500K bytes of "the best of" tech
                      advice and quotes from Scott Fisher #1.
timing.muller        -How engine timing works -by Jim Muller
checklist.ascii.Z    -Automotive Buying/maintaince Checklist -Buja/Garnett
suneedle.exe         -"HAYSTACK" IBM/PC program & documentation for
                      selecting SU carb needles -Dean Deeds
                      (self-extracting pk-zip file. Transfer in binary,
                      and run "suneedle" on your PC. Haystack files will
                      be created in current directory)
vtr                  -Info on how to join the Vintage Triumph Register
peerless.reg         -Info on the Peerless & Warwick Register
rules.91             -VTR Auto-x rules.

/pub/sol/Images       Pictures Directory
*.gif                -Various pictures of "our cars", in GIF image form.
*.jpg                -Pictures stored in JPEG image form.
*.xbm.Z              -Compressed X11 bitmap images.
*.ps                 -Postscript printer files

/pub/sol/Digests     -Archives of British-car mail (directory)
sol.digest.xxx.Z      compressed files, 50 days each
  or
sol.month.Z          -older archives, 1 month each

Notes-  -All files ending in .Z, .zip, .exe, .gif, and .jpg need to be
transferred in BINARY mode. Compressed files need to be extracted to
be used. More information on compression/decompression, and where to find
the programs is available in the file DECODERS.DOC.

Uploading files to the FTP server:
-Please use common compression programs when possible, or plain ASCII for
 smaller files.
-Please upload *all* graphic images to the pub\sol\Images directory, not
 just pub\sol.
-Try to keep file names short & descriptive -using 8.3 format,
 (xxxxxxxx.yyy) for the benefit of all users.



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