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Subject: (fwd) Paint and tubing
From: Roland Dudley <cobra@cdc.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 10:22:38 pdt
Here's another posting from Dick Nyquist.  Please send any off-line
comments to him directly at dickn@hpspdbc.spd.hp.com.

Thanks,

Roland


> From dickn@hpspdbc.spd.hp.com Fri Jul 10 10:09 PDT 1992
> Subject: Paint and tubing
> To: cobra@snakebyte.cdc.hp.com (Roland Dudley)
> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 10:08:47 PDT
> 
>  
>  
>  I notice some comments on copper lines for fuel and brakes in
>  the sol-digest. Fuel pressure is usually less then 5 psi. Brake pressures
>  can exceed 1000 psi. Copper will work fine for fuel so long as it is
>  not subject to excessive flexing or vibration. Clearly copper will
>  work in a brake system up to a point. However when it fails it will
>  be in a panic stop situation and it will be catastrophic. I have been
>  reading the "Brake Handbook" by Fred Puhn it is an excellent book on the
>  design and testing of brakes with a lot of information about racing
>  applications. 
>  
>  (quoted from the "Brake Handbook")
>  
>       "Copper tubing or any tubing of unknown material should NEVER
>  be used for brake tubing. Copper is soft and prone to cracking......
>  "Tubing manufactured for brake systems......... is made of soft-steel
>  strips sheathed with copper. These strips are then rolled into a double
>  wall tube and bonded at high tempurature in a furnace. The tube is then
>  tin-coated for corrosion resistance......      Always use proper quality
>  brake-tubing material..."
>  
>  Here in the western states high heat and hard high speed stops are 
>  common. Fortunatly we do not face much of a rust problem. For my
>  cars I will only use steel brake tubing or braided steel hoses, your
>  milage may vary.
>  
>  
>  On the topic of exhaust manifold paint:
>  the porcelain glaze found on the expaust manifolds of many classic
>  cars in the 1920s and 1930s and on Jaguars more recently is the same 
>  material found on steel or cast iron bath tubs. The process was invented
>  by Buick in the 1880s. (He later lost his money starting the Buick auto 
>  company.) A few years ago I wanted to have the manifold a classic car
>  redone with this material. It cost a bit over $100.00 but it came out 
>  perfect and it still looks that way after several trips the length of
>  California and lots of local use. The manifold has also been on and
>  off the car several times. It still has a high gloss. If I was restoring
>  a Jag I'd consider the original material. Mine was done by:
>  
>       Porcelain Patch and Glaze
>       966 86th st, Oakland, Calif
>       
>       1(510)635-2188
>  
>  There may be other places to get it done. Ask someone who restores 
>  Packards, Lincolns or other classics.
>  
>  
> dickn
> 
> 
> 
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