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Re: Greg, mods, heat, and four season Bricklins

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Subject: Re: Greg, mods, heat, and four season Bricklins
From: "Seth" <sbunin@provide.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 16:04:28 -0500
This talk about hot rodding and heat dissipation reminded me of
something I saw recently. Visteon has a new radiator design which
basically decreases the core size by about half, i.e., you can
get double the fluid flow for the same space...


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On 12/20/00, at 12:39 AM, alphachi wrote: 

>> I'm surprised yours makes more heat than a stocker.
>> It's always been my experience that hotrodding make
>> for a more thermally efficient, and slightly cooler
>> running motor.
>> GM
>
>Well, that's one target behind hotrodding.  But any increase in HP (energy)
>will increase heat production.  The idea is to find a way to dissipate all
>that extra heat by creating a more efficient means of doing so.     The
>small but powerful twin fans in push mode worked fantastically.
>stephan
>
> ====
>>   Do NOT remove the gaskets at the hood/cowl
>> > line as this then allows fumes into the fresh air
>> vents!  This idea is not
>> > only poorly conceived, it's downright dangerous!
>stephan
>
>> ====
>> Well, I did it to mine when it was new to relieve the
>> high underhood pressure at speed, and it was one of
>> the first things TT mentioned to me to do when I
>> first talked to him in '80.
>> GM
>
>Yea, this has been one of TT's ideas for some time.   I just think it's a
>bad one.  He's also suggested the cutting of side vents, and that has also
>been less than successful.  Personally, I think the whole "underhood
>pressure" thing is not well grounded.   While I was up in Va with TT we went
>over this during the week and TT's argument was less than convincing.
>stephan
>
>> I imagine if you sit in a lot of creeping traffic on
>> a hot day, there might be an issue, though it never
>> was for me here in Hotlanta, or during my frequent
>> trips to La./Fla.
>> GM
>
>Well, keep in mind that the only thing between the fresh air vents and all
>the emissions from a carbuerated motor is the gasket you're removing.  Also
>remember that some of these emissions are completely odorless.
>Besides, there are other places for these fumes to enter the vehicle
>including of all places, the steering column!   I still think it's not a
>safe move and not very effective.  Now don't get me wrong here,  I do think
>TT has an invaluable knowledge of Bs, but not every one of his brainstorms
>is as invaluable.   Air door locks anyone???  Just shoot me.
>stephan
>
>> ====
>> >     The door leaks are another problem and even
>> after TT's install of new
>> > seals, adjustments and promises, they still gush
>> and the new seals are
>> > already deteriorating!
>> >     The blower mod TT performed really f'd up my
>> vent system since it
>> > disconnects the defroster control and screws
>> everything up and so not only
>> > would I not recommend it, it should be condemned!
>stephan
>
>> ====
>> Sorry to hear this. You'd think after all these years
>> they would have the mods well thought out.
>> GM
>
>Tell me about it! It would have been nice if I was told about the vent
>changes BEFORE, not after.   TT also tried to drop the vents to aim them
>towards the floor for BETTER cooling.  A little knowledge in convection
>principles would have dashed that idea right away.
>
>At the
>> least, weatherstripping materials are far better now
>> than when the car was built.
>> GM
>
>Yep, you would think.  My old stripping (circa 1979) was in bettter shape
>after 20 years than this stuff is in one!  Go figure.   I guess crappy stuff
>will always be crappy stuff, no matter what era.   Talk about disappointing.
>
>stephan #2821

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