>I disagree with these comments because they serve no purpose.
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I guess you missed the smiley face :^)) On a more serious note, I
don't view the world through the same rose colored glasses you seem
to. :^))
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What
>determines what the cars are worth? Well, economists would say the
>price that a willing buyer and a willing seller transact. But what
>really drives the price? It is perception.
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For sure, but more importantly, desire in this case. This is what my
comments are based on. P.T. Barnum's dictum at work here.
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When I am asked, and we all
>are, what my car is worth, I don't say something like "well, not
much
>because of...". When I studied negotiation, that was called
dealing
>against yourself. Rather, now I might say that I saw one up for
auction
>with the starting bid at $25,000. That statement is totally
accurate
>and supportable.
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Certainly. Obviously it's up to the seller to present the goods to
best advantage. My comments don't contradict this.
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>
>Perhaps the car that is for sale is a bedroom car like Sandy
Bigman's --
>one that wins Concourses.
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So what if it is? And what kind of Concourses? Bricklin meets? I
can't imagine a Bricklin ever winning a major show.
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What do you think Sandy would sell his car
>for (I doubt that he would).
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A rhetorical question, you'll have to ask Sandy.
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Anyway, by running down what someone lists
>a car for serves no purpose.
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What you call "running down" I call "pragmatic observations" based
on facts.
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We should be happy that a Bricklin is for
>sale at a popular Internet spot and getting lots of exposure. Plus
we
>should be happy that he didn't price it too cheaply.
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I agree, but in the scheme of things, IMHO it's highly doubtful it
will have any positive impact on Bricklin values if he's successful.
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>
>I only hope that with the national exposure more people will be
drawn to
>the website and hopefully the cars in the classified section there
are
>not woefully underpriced.
>
>Public perception is our ally and each of us can help form that.
We
>have to stop devaluing our cars and start to drive the market (and
the
>car). I mean, I have been considering going on the radio talk
show,
>Motorman, and bragging about the car. Should I say, well, these
cars
>are not too collectable, there is not much of a market, and they
aren't
>worth much. Of course not; I don't think that is true.
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It's certainly not in our best interest. :^)) And I certainly don't
devalue any cars I have sold. Quite the contrary, I have used P.T.
Barnum's dictum to good effect.......and had it done to me when I
bought my Bricklin. :^)) It doesn't change the facts underlying my
quips though. As a buyer, desire clouds our decision making
abilities. The auto collectors who normally determine value consider
Bricklins as a non entity, so you're right, we are left with the
responsibility for fanning the flames of desire.
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>
>Should we carp about someone listing a car for 25,000? Not in my
>opinion. Is the person who spends that for a car a fool? Not
>necessarily. Is a Beanie Baby worth $200? I think that I made the
point
>I wanted to. Kim
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It's all a matter of perspective. One person's carping is another's
comic relief. :^)) The main point you made to me personally is you
seem to be too preoccupied with your car's monetary value. Since the
ultimate factor is exclusiveness; I'll help a little, I plan to be
buried in mine. :^))
GM
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