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RE: 86 5.0 Econoline as donor vehicle?

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Subject: RE: 86 5.0 Econoline as donor vehicle?
From: Phil Martin <pmartin@isgtec.com>
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 14:32:59 -0400
Thanks a lot for the info.

I was under the impression that the earlier systems weren't appropriate for 
performance applications, and they don't come any earlier than '86 ;)  I 
knew that there was a switch involving spped-density and mass air, I just 
didn't remember when, which way it went, or which was more desirable ;)

I had in mind that Edelbrock sold a lower intake that could be used with 
the stock upper - anyone know anything about this?  Maybe it just works 
with the GT-40 upper...

You mention that the Hypertech chip will only work with the five speed, I 
assume that you mean that the specific one you have will only work with a 
five speed - I shouldn't have any difficulty getting an AOD-specific chip 
according to the Hypertech web page.

I guess that my real questions are:

        1) Will a Hypertech "Power Module" overcome all of the truck-ish 
elements 
of the EFI system from my dad's van?
        2) Will a Trans-Go (or similar) shift kit plus a higher stall torque 
convertor overcome all of the truck-ish elements of the AOD from my dad's 
van?

Thanks for any help,
--
Phil Martin                             pmartin@isgtec.com
"If we finally made our peace and went our separate ways,
 You'd go west and I'd go east and we'd meet here in this place."

-----Original Message-----
From:   Olenick, Jamison [SMTP:Olenick@ssims.nci.nih.gov]
Sent:   Wednesday, May 20, 1998 2:50 PM
To:     'Phil Martin'
Subject:        RE: 86 5.0 Econoline as donor vehicle?

Phil,
   As a fellow Bricklin owner and 5.0 Mustang owner I can tell you what
I know.
   I have considered the same swap into my bricklin and still have not
decided against it.
   Here is what I know:
   First - is the 5.0 EFI speed density or mass air. (the easiest way to
tell is there will be a mass air meter between the air filter and the
throttle body if the car is mass air). If the EFI setup is speed density
(86-88 Mustangs) (i dont know about the trucks) you will have to get a
mass air conversion for the car.  The speed density setup works well
with a stock setup but will cause computer failure if too much is
changed to the original engine setup (cam, heads, supercharger, turbo,
nitrous....)  Cost ~ $400
   As for the intake - Ford Motorsport sells a EFI lower intake for a
351 (stock equipment on a Lightning) but it is a GT40 intake,  which
requires a GT40 upper intake.  Cost for both ~$600
   I think that you will also have to change distributors not to mention
removing almost everything from the 5.0 donor - all sensors - fuel pump,
(which will cause you to have to get new high pressure fuel lines)
   I am not sure about the Ford wiring harness that makes it easier to
swap a 5.0 EFI setup into an older car.  Sounds like a good idea if
there is one.
   I still have considered the swap myself but have not found the time
or energy to do it.  If you decide to attempt it I would love to hear
how it goes.
   Let me know if you have any more questions.  I have good knowledge of
the Mustang 5.0 EFI setup.
                                                Jamie

ps - I have a Hypertech chip for a Mass air 5.0 with 5spd.  (will not
work with the auto)

*       Jamie Olenick                    olenick@ssims.nci.nih.gov
*       "Whenever I see an old lady slip and fall on a wet sidewalk, my
first instinct is to laugh.
*       But then I think, what if I was an ant, and she fell on me.
Then it wouldn't seem quite
*       so funny"  J.H.
*       
*       


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