I liken it to skiing, which everyone's watched on the tube, or done
themselves, through gates, one at a time, more like a slalom than a
downhill. That's a race, but it's against the clock, not ski to ski. :)
--Pat K
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>From: "MrPepsi(Brent Johnson)" <Soloii@mrpepsi.com>
>To: "'ba-autox@autox.team.net'" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: new site
>Date: Tue, Aug 6, 2002, 7:49 PM
>
> The average person does not know what an autocross is.
> I find myself calling them "competitions in parking lots involving timed
> runs between cones."
> Often they will reply with, "you mean like a race."
> It just becomes habit to call them races, it's just too hard to spit out
> that whole sentence.
> If they ask, I explain it is not on the track and wheel to wheel.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Kelly [mailto:lollipop487@attbi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:17 PM
> To: Randy Noll; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: new site
>
> Let's hope also they loosen up some of the caveats:
> 100 cars, 150 people, 45mph (average or top speed--not clear), 45 dba at the
> edge of the site (we're at 95dbA at 100 feet). And I do wish folks would
> stop calling autocrosses "races." That implies wheel to wheel, which we are
> not.
> --Pat Kelly
>
> ----------
>>From: Randy Noll <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
>>To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
>>Subject: RE: new site
>>Date: Tue, Aug 6, 2002, 7:11 PM
>>
>
>> The site that I believe PCA is using is absolutely stellar, flat,
>> smooth concrete. Though not overly wide, it's probably long enough to
>> launch a plane (500-700 yards?) and has another strip, though slightly
>> less savory, running perpendicular to it at one end. I went down to
>> check it out last time I was unemployed ;)
>>
>> You could probably build a 2:00+ course on the two pieces, I doubt we'd
>> have enough workers to cover it all. I doubt PCA is getting both
>> pieces, or even all of the first. Even then it would still be a great
>> site. It's only drawback is that it's long and thin, reminiscent of
>> Mather but much longer and wider, and a true rectangle rather than a
>> strip with fingers. The water on one side is kinda sketchy, maybe 15'
>> down with only a curb and no rail, making the useable space more
>> narrow.
>>
>> I think the other site is the lot near the museum. It's asphalt, kinda
>> like the Coliseum, and about the same size, maybe a little smaller.
>> There are plenty of poles, though a safe course could easily be built.
>> Not nearly as nice as the concrete... *drool*
>>
>> Let's hope PCA gives them a good showing and they continue to warm up
>> to autocross.
>>
>> randy
>>
>>
>> --- "Paul S (#51 STS)" <ibisbike@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > -------------------- End Original Message
>>> > --------------------
>>> >
>>> > PCA has the use of the area in front of the air
>>> > museum alongside the
>>> > seaplane lagoon.
>>> > The museum is actually the original terminal for the
>>> > Pan American China
>>> > Clipper flights in the '30s.
>>> > That's the area we used when the Navy was still
>>> > there for our first two
>>> > events.
>>> > For our second two events we used the runway
>>> > alongside the estuary.
>>> >
>>> > --John Kelly
>>>
>>> So which of those two sites is "ideal" where in a
>>> perfect world we got to use it all the time. How
>>> large an area are we talking about? Candlestick size
>>> or more? Or something less than that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> =====
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