> "Whad he say?"
> MJ
sorry, for those that didnt read the article in GRM, they tested a bunch of
pocket rockets and reported, among other things, the lap times on an
autocross course.
my comment refers to that they were on different models of street tires, and
you cant predict how fast the cars will be in stock form on r-tires. (and
further, that the neon ACR suspension might be tuned with r-tires in mind.)
maybe im wrong, but dont (virtually all) stock class cars have too limited a
camber adjustment to get maximum traction out of r-tires?
-james c
OSP - Overtly Superior Power
----- Original Message -----
From: Lolita and Mike <lomike@earthlink.net>
To: James Creasy <black94pgt@pacbell.net>; <bchafin@attglobal.net>; John J.
Stimson-III <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
Cc: Patrick <pjsimm@inreach.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>; Steve Wynne
<swynne@bendnet.com>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: '02 ACR owners On-Line???
> on 3/25/02 8:13, James Creasy at black94pgt@pacbell.net wrote:
>
> "Whad he say?"
> MJ
>
> > oh gosh, those are all different street tires. then there is no way to
> > compare the times to get an idea of ultimate speed. is there a
stock-class
> > car that can be setup to give proper tire temps (i.e. camber) on
r-tires?
> > so if the neon has stiffer sway bars, it would have a big advantage in
> > something closer to the correct front-rear bar ratio.
> >
> > -james c
> > OSP - Oh Sh!t, Puddles
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Barry Chafin <bchafin@attglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: '02 ACR owners On-Line???
> >
> >
> >> The BFG Comp T/A ZR in the GRM Neon ACR compares w/ Firestone Firehawk
> > SZ50,
> >> Goodyear Eagle GS-C or F1 Steel, Bridgestone RE730 and Dunlop SP Sport
> > 8000
> >> (none of which are all season). In the three tests TireRack publishes
> >> comparing these tires the BFG Comp T/A ZR has the least dry traction
and
> >> highest lap times of the 5 tires.
> >>
> >> I know that the SpecV has been tested with Continental ContiSport tires
> > but
> >> haven't a clue if they were on the test car or how it compares with the
> > Comp
> >> T/A ZR... Tires make the biggest difference after the driver, right
> > :^)...
> >>
> >> Barry - http://www.4d-sport.com
> >>
> >> "John J. Stimson-III" wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 07:45:40PM -0800, James Creasy wrote:
> >>>> im skeptical of any magazine test results. the alignment settings on
> > a
> >>>> stock class car can create big differences in autox speed, and who
> > knows
> >>>> what the factories did to the cars before sending them to GRM.
> >>>
> >>> Some of them put non-standard tires on. According to owners on the
> >>> SCCA forums, PZeros are not stock on the MP3, and BFG KDs are not
> >>> stock on the Neon. Hmm.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> john@idsfa.net John
Stimson
> >>> http://www.idsfa.net/~john/ HMC Physics
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