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Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires

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Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
From: Darren Madams <darren@madams.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:37:19 -0800 (PST)
What about a set of Toyo's or Yoko A008s?  Something with more stick than
a steet tire, with driving characteristics closer to a race tire, that
won't chew itself up like a Hoosier?

        --Darren "any tire compound I want, <$200 a set!" Madams :)

p.s. First two schools I did were on street tires because that was all I
could afford at the time.  I would have rather done it on race tires
though, but it was still incredibly valuable.

Andy "better listed to him too" McKee wrote:
> I'd second everything Master Randall had to say, and I'd further add that 3Com
> is not very Hoosier friendly.  I'd just run street tires or some beater Kumhos
> if you can find 'em.  The mental aspect of the school is what is most
> important, IMO.  Even if it was a dial in school, setting your car up for 3Com
> would mean setting it up for there only, due to its unique combination of
> bumps, jumps, and gravel.
> 
> -Andy
> 
> 
> --- "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com> wrote:
> > See? Joey, come on! Randy was voted Solo II ROOKIE OF THE YEAR. He's got 
>some
> > credability!
> > 
> > Katie
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Randy Noll [mailto:rnoll98@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:54 PM
> > To: joey@hotngui.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > 
> > 
> > Joey,
> > 
> > Be careful with the hoosiers, you want to be sure the tires last ALL
> > DAY LONG. Heat probably won't be as much of a problem as tire wear. My
> > co-driver and I went through 2/3 of a set of KUMHOS at last year's
> > school, though the GGF surface is probably more abrasive than 3COM, not
> > sure on that tho.
> > 
> > Also, as Katie said, you most likeley will be focusing a lot more on
> > theory and technique that will transcend tire choice and, in many
> > cases, car choice. I drive an MR2 and actually rented a '00 Miata for
> > one school I took last year. It was bone stock with street tires and
> > was still a great learning experience. Everything I learned carried
> > over to my MR2.
> > 
> > I would guess you'd probably toast a new set of Hoosiers at a school,
> > that's an expensive day :) Plus, you blow a turn early while learning a
> > corner and you could be on flatspotted tires for the rest of the day...
> > for that reason alone I wouldn't bring Hoosiers to a school.
> > 
> > I'd run the cheapest streets you can find and work on theory and
> > technique.
> > 
> > My 2 cents :)
> > 
> > Randy
> > 
> > 
> > --- Joey Jarosz <joey@hotngui.com> wrote:
> > > Thanx everyone for the advice. I think I'll go with my race tires
> > > because...
> > > 
> > > 1. I think I have enough experience with my street tires on 
> > > autocross and the road track to know how they work
> > > 2. I am definitely running the race tires all year (rain not
> > > withstanding) and have already done 2 events with them this year
> > > 3. I am already writing off this set of hoosiers as my "learning"
> > > tires and fully expect to need to replace them with new rubber
> > >      before the season is over (SCCA, NASA, AAS)
> > > 4. After winning the Slush Novice 1 championship last year while
> > > staring at my new racing tires sitting in my garage, I just want
> > >      to have some fun with them finally...
> > > 
> > > thanx,
> > > joey
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > That's funny, because I was just telling Joey to run do whatever
> > > would save him more money. I think what most instructors teach
> > > transcends tire choice anyway, though I could be wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Katie
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:44 AM
> > > > To: Joey Jarosz; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > Subject: Re: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > > >
> > > > i would use whatever you will be using during the season.  you will
> > > > practicing/learning new techniques, so you want your car to be in
> > > race trim.
> > > >
> > > > -james
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Joey Jarosz" <joey@hotngui.com>
> > > > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 7:30 AM
> > > > Subject: AutoX School -- street tires vs. race tires
> > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for opinions from qualified individuals about whether
> > > or not
> > > > its
> > > > > a good idea to use street tires or autocross race tires during
> > > the
> > > > upcoming
> > > > > autocross schools. I can see some benefits and downsides to both.
> > > I have
> > > > > more than a few races under my belt and I am NOT running in the
> > > Novice
> > > > class
> > > > > this year.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx,
> > > > > joey jarosz
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > Joey Jarosz
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> > > (408) 247-5582
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