Chris,
Well, go to it! If a team of people can demonstrate
a working, easy to use, fail-resistant system that
has significant improvements over the current system,
or even one with no immediate downside and some
visible future gain, we'd jump on it.
I'd be amazed, since I have implemented two such systems --
one for AYSO soccer, one for Little League. We
didn't find it to be trivial, and significant investment
in equipment and personal time was required. These
systems were successful, and were used for at least the
several years that I was in charge of that area.
Take over, go forward. Set up a group who already have
laptops, make a plan, develop the system. I'd even contribute
all my perl scripts for results. I would even help if a real
project were under development, with appreciable advantages.
Should be minimal up front costs for a barcode reader, just
to demonstrate operational characteristics. Heck, I'd contribute
the barcode reader to a serious group with a feasible plan.
Give us progress reports.
Jerry
Jerry Mouton mailto:jerry@moutons.org Laissez les bons temps
rouler!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Warner" <jabrwoky@pacbell.net>
To: "Bay_Area_Autocross_List" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Preregistration and computerized timing/scoring
> A poor choice of words on my part.
>
> I am refering to peoples resistance to change. "If it ain't broke don't
fix
> it" attitude. I see it all the time in my line of work. People get so
used
> to a certain methodology or process, that they fail to see the potential
to
> optimize the process.
>
> as for the web development, that's a small part of what do professionally.
> I was not attempting to trivialize the work needed to develop a good
> website.
>
> Chris
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jerry Mouton
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 9:42 AM
> > To: Bay_Area_Autocross_List
> > Subject: Re: Preregistration and computerized timing/scoring
> >
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > The programs to do the web results were not technically
> > difficult, but they did take about 300 hours of my time
> > to develop over two years. Trivial, no.
> >
> > Politics didn't even come into it, I just had a better idea
> > and went out and did it. Nobody complained or stood
> > in the way, because I didn't tell them about it until I was
> > ready to show it. If I did tell them, they would have been
> > continuously bugging me to get it finished faster, and to
> > change it to be like they envisioned it.
> >
> > Please, tell us more about this political roadblocks that
> > have stood in your way...
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > Jerry Mouton mailto:jerry@moutons.org Laissez les bons temps
> > rouler!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Warner" <jabrwoky@pacbell.net>
> > To: "John F. Kelly Jr." <76067.1750@compuserve.com>;
> > "Bay_Area_Autocross_List" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>; "Mark J. Andy"
> > <marka@telerama.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:41 AM
> > Subject: RE: Preregistration and computerized timing/scoring
> >
> >
> > > The only challenge that prevents us geeks from implementing an
automated
> > > system is not technical, but political. Building the infrastructure,
> > coding
> > > the software, and deploying the system live. It's so technically easy
> > it's
> > > almost trivial. The hard part is getting people to accept it
> > and use it.
> > I
> > > am a programmer, not a politician. That's why us geeks have failed so
> > far.
> > > We don't do politics.
> > >
> > > I bet 20 years ago people were saying it would be impossible to
> > report the
> > > results in 2 days electronically.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of John F. Kelly Jr.
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 8:20 AM
> > > To: Bay_Area_Autocross_List; Mark J. Andy
> > > Subject: Re: Preregistration and computerized timing/scoring
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------- Begin Original Message --------------------
> > >
> > > Message text written by "Mark J. Andy"
> > >
> > > "Given where you guys run, I find it pretty hard to believe that you
> > > wouldn't have geeks jump all over each other for the easy work
> > assignment
> > > :-)"
> > > -------------------- End Original Message --------------------
> > >
> > > The "geeks" have ALL thrown up their hands. That's going back over 10
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Our present "old fashioned" system does one important thing. It works.
> > >
> > > --John Kelly
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