But what "rule" are you talking about? This rule is not documented anywhere.
Is it in the same place that says event officials can ride their bikes on
course? :)
Katie K.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Allan Mitchell [mailto:nokones@kenmitchell.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 6:24 PM
To: Anthony Tabacco
Cc: Rich Urschel; ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Stopping for Timing Slips
I agree that rules should be applied equally but how do you expect a
newbie for the first time at an event be knowledgeable on the rules when
no one gives him a copy of the rules or explain the rules and goes out
makes his/her run and does not stop, and be penalized for not knowing a
rule. In this case a verbal is warranted.
Now driving recklessly in the paddock is a different story and common
sense.
Anthony Tabacco wrote:
>
> Driving unsafely in the paddock area, or anywhere at an SCCA event for
that
> matter, is addressed clearly in our rule book. Failure to stop for a
timing
> slip is not the same thing, does not necessarily imply unsafe behavior,
and
> is not covered in our rules. It just means the driver forgot or didn't see
> the station. Whether or not a driver is new or experienced should not be
> relavant. Rules should be applied equally, when a rule exists. In this
case
> it doesn't. Rich is right.
>
> Tony
>
> Hey, Rich, I like me better when I do those lite nostalgia posts.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Urschel" <OSP13@attglobal.net>
> To: <nokones@kenmitchell.com>
> Cc: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Stopping for Timing Slips
>
> > Kenneth Allan Mitchell wrote:
> >
> > > John Kelly was given a DNF for one of his runs when he did not stopped
> > > for a timing slip at Round 6 in Sacramento. Also other drivers in the
> > > past have been penalized for the very same thing. It doesn't happen
too
> > > often. In most cases its the newbie drivers that don't stop because
they
> > > are unaware of the rule and they are usually all pumped up and want to
> > > get back and tell everyone how bitchin this sport is and forget to
stop.
> > >
> > > I feel one verbal warning is appropriate for a newbie driver but in
the
> > > case of an experienced autocrosser, that is different. Its going to be
a
> > > DNF and a brief chat. There's no excuse and safety should not be
> > > compromised for any reason.
> >
> > Well then I think we are back to Katie's question. So which
> > rule authorizes whom to call a DNF under what conditions?
> > I can't find it either.
> >
> > BTW, I personally think DNF is the wrong penalty because
> > the times I have seen experienced drivers unsafely blow
> > by the timing slip person is when they are upset over
> > having botched their run. Safety disqualification (or warning
> > therof) by the Event Chair and Event Safety Steward works
> > for me. Handing out DNF's (or not) without a documented
> > rule could become very political.
> > Rich
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Kenneth Allan Mitchell
mailto:nokones@kenmitchell.com
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