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Re: olympics

To: Carson or Wendy <dammwood@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: olympics
From: Alan Dahl <alandahl@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:05:08 -0800
On Feb 13, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Carson or Wendy wrote:
> Last year or the year before there was a brief blast of threads about 
> Solo 2 becoming a demonstration sport in the olympics in the near 
> future. Is this moving along or is it dead in the water?

You mean this post that Roger Johnson sent out on *April 1st 2002* 
(note the date)?

My guess is that we won't hear any more about it unless Roger is 
planning on giving us an update this upcoming April 1. Glad to see that 
Roger has kept up the "Lirpa Loof" tradition of Peter Raymond so well 
that people still get caught by them! :-)

- Alan Dahl

        From:     rjohnson@friendlynet.com
        Subject:        Background - Upcoming Olympic Announcement
        Date:   April 1, 2002 5:19:39 AM PST
        To:       autox@autox.team.net, evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com
        Reply-To:         rjohnson@friendlynet.com

I want to provide some of the background behind the
upcoming International Olympic Committee announce-
ment regarding the inclusion of Autocross as an
"Olympic Demonstration Sport" in Athens 2004.

The IOC official announcement was due today, but will
likely be delayed due to Easter, the April 1st holiday
and Passover.  In any case, as my resignation from
the ad hoc committee that worked to this end is effective
today, I am at liberty to confirm what has been whispered
and rumored among the solo community for some time
now.  Most important is that each of you not be fooled
by what will appear to be the fulfillment of a widely-held
dream - there is far more to this than first meets the eye.

And if you can see thru this process, now is *not* the time
for public proclamations.  Much better to let the news
sink in for a while to allow the true believers to have
their day.

So while this 'demonstration' status for 2004 and 2008
are big steps that we are very proud of, it is due to the
machinations and unreasonableness of one of the member
countries (Finland) that we aren't further along - in fact
far more is _undecided_ regarding the competition than
what has been agreed on.

This effort started some time ago - prior to the Atlanta
Summer Games, in fact - when SCCA coined our Solo
II Nationals week of competition the "Solo Olympics".
Some of the trophies that year were medals with ribbons,
etc.  The US committee preparing for the Atlanta games
was headed by a friend of Nick Craw, Peter Ubberoth.  He gently
reminded Nick that the work "Olympics" was not in the
public domain, and asked that we not use that phrase
to denote SCCA events.  This discussion between
Nick and Peter went further, and ultimately led to the formation
of the committee that has successfully petitioned the IOC to
include our sport.  And if we can get past the incredible
politics that have impeded progress, we should be a full
Olympic sport in 2012!

Each country that had an existing gymkhana/time trial/autocross
program was invited to select a member to serve on the committee.
Great Britian, Germany, Canada, Japan, Thailand and the Netherlands
were the first to elect representatives with our 'friend' from Finland
coming later, in spite of the fact that there is evidence of only TWO
events held in that nation, with less than 20 entries at each!
(Yet this fool is an autocross expert.  Geez.)

But you can be assured that world-wide, this sport is poised on the
edge of explosive growth as other countries, especially in South
America, rush to develop programs to catch what clearly has to be
a huge U.S. and Canadian advantage.

As I mentioned, what *has* been decided is far smaller that the
list of items that have not.  The rough outline of the decided items
include the site for the competition, which is a relatively small 
parking
lot at the Hellinikon Olympic Complex (HOSC) south of Athens.  Given
that this is the olympic hockey center, it will get little use for these
summer games and the lot is ours for the necessary week.

There will be 6 members on each National team, with 6 alternates.
There are to be 6 vehicle types represented:  saloon car, 2 seat sports
car, open wheel (FF2000 seems to be the choice here) etc.  For the
most part, our committee favored a same-car event, i.e., the drivers 
from
each country selected to drive say the formula car would all drive the 
same
car.  Each driver gets two runs in that car each day, Monday August 23
thru Friday the 27th, with their best run from each day accumulating
to an aggregate total for the team championship and the individual gold
in that vehicle.
The order in which drivers compete in that car will rotate - for 
instance
if you are the first driver Monday you would be the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and
9th on the succeeding days (depending on the number of countries
competing, of course).  And as the sport gets more successful, it may
be necessary to prepare more than one car (like IROC) in each
category to accomodate increasing numbers of national teams.

It is in the area of teams that the first obstacles have been 
presented.  In
spite of parallel women's teams in almost all Olympic sports, the Japa-
nese representative Shashimi Wantanabe and the Thai, Mei Upp have
strenuously resisted the inclusion of Women's classes even in the demon-
stration phase, as there is *zero* female participation in their 
countries.
And more, as the kinds of events run in the Japanese version of the 
sport
are VERY different than the event courses in North America.

Further politics have included the Canadian insistence on a class 
similar
to SCCA's A Modified, with competitor supplied and driven vehicles.
Gee, given the potential for dominance from the Milligan/Cheng car,
is it any surprise that the Canadian rep (Rae McAlan) has dug his heels
in on this one?

So of course, not to be outdone, I have insisted on a Viper/Z06 type
vehicle in the mix.  And the German rep (Essen Scheist) and the Dutch
rep (Ibea Dyke) have joined forces to demand Porsche 911-type vehicles.
Then the Japanese and English combine to insist that at least two
of the 6 vehicles be right hand drive.  (It is my guess that the new 
Mini
will most certainly be included.)

The resolution of these vehicle issues will most certainly, ultimately, 
be
money:  which of the world's manufacturers will step up to provide the
millions that the IOC will demand of the Official Supplier of Cars?
(and tires, shocks, plugs, etc. etc. etc.)  Certainly the serious among
us will then be purchasing those vehicles, to gain as much seat time
as possible . . . . . .

I am sure that all of the above issues can be resolved, but it is going 
to
take a drastic change in the make-up of the organizing committee - the
reason for my resignation and also that of the French and UK  reps is
the Finn on the committee, Loof Lirpa.  I can say with no fear of
argument that this guy is a total fool, and his obstructionistic tactics
on everything from vehicles to venue to visas has delayed
immeasureably the forthcoming announcement.  This should have been
done last fall, and here it is April 1st already.  Valuable time has 
been
lost as the incredible amount of planning and detail necessary to stage
this event in a mere 16 months is staggering.

He has further insisted that at least one of the vehicles be of the
European forest-rally type, with competition indoors on the hockey
ice!  And while constantly decrying the potential inclusion of the
NASCAR or Indy-Car drivers from the U.S. as professionals, Mr.
Loof Lirpa insists that Finnish rally drivers are amateurs!  Incredible.

So I urge you again not to be fooled: not by the spin the press puts on
this, nor the biased nationalistic reports that are inevitable, and 
surely
not by the coming endless rounds of individual viewpoints that will
soon overwhelm the electronic lists.

It is up to the ASN (FIA affiliate) in each participating country to
determine the selection processes for it's team, and if competiton
at this level is of interest to you please stay tuned (and update
your passports)!

Roger (O) Johnson

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