Under this wording I can still put all the lightweight base model Civic trim
onto an 89 Civic Si. The only thing I can't change is the sunroof. Its
still a hybrid car, jyst weighs about 20 lbs more than the current hybrid
cars. "Problem" still exists.
--Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Linnhoff [mailto:knuckledragger@kcweb.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: awhollis@swbell.net; autox@autox.team.net;
> evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com; Mark Sirota
> Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] Please comment on the August Fastrack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Please submit clear, concise, enforceable wording that will
> speel out what
> > you suggest (u/b yes, but no drivetrain). We've tried. You participate
> in
> > the StreetTouring Yahoo group so you know how many folks have tried and
> > failed.
> ===========================================
> My quick & dirty disallowance wording is something along the lines of:
> "Engines, transmissions, transaxles and/or rear ends are specifically
> excluded from U/B. Each car must run the correct drivetrain
> parts (engine,
> transmissions, transaxle,rear end) for that chassis/trim level." I'm sure
> the wording can be smoothed out a bunch, but that's the gist of it.
>
> I would still like to allow a guy the option of installing a functionally
> identical engine from another, possibly newer, year car when his engine
> blows up. But getting that allowance worded while not allowing
> "advantageous" engine swaps would be difficult, but not impossible. An
> allowance for this might say something along the lines of
> "Drivetrain parts
> from alternate cars on the same SP listing line are allowed as long as the
> factory rated output/specs are identical to the part(s) being replaced."
> This allows a later, but identical engine/tranny/rear to be installed into
> an earlier car.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> > To wit, eliminate drivetrain swaps and I can still take an 89 Civic Si,
> and
> > ud/bd every piece of lightweight trim from the base model Civic to get
> > almost the same result as starting with the base car and changing the
> > drivetrain.
> =======================================
> That's fine if someone wants to go to those extremes as long as the engine
> matches the chassis/trim level as produced by the factory. I submit that
> most folks will not want to go quite that far. But, this is why we/I do
> still want the U/B allowance. I want to be able to remove a trim piece
> here, put in a lighter console there and so on and so forth. Swapping to
> lighter interior parts or bumpers is more "in the spirit" of
> Street Touring
> than are engine swaps.
>
> What we're saying is that there are already plenty of classes and
> categories
> that do allow engine swaps and we don't want to be one of them.
>
> Eric Linnhoff in KC
> '98 Dodge Neon STS #69
> www.geocities.com/eric10mm/KnuckleDragger
> "In Paris they simply stared when I spoke to them in French;
> I never did succeed in making those idiots understand their language."
> Mark Twain
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