I'm forwarding to you a response I received from Pete Lyon in Risk
Management to a couple of the issues that have been floating around in
cyberspace regarding minor waivers. This way, all of you get the same
information at the same time from the ONLY reliable source - the guy who
wrote the Release and Waiver Guidelines and who worked hard with the
insurance people to get rid of the two separate minor waivers and
consolidate them into one. You don't have me or anybody else trying to
interpret what he said. You get it straight from the horse's mouth
I hope this clears the air on some of the confusion. PLEASE share it
with anybody and everybody you know - especially those who have been
involved in this discussion.
Pete's responses to my questions are first, followed by the questions,
so you may want to drop down to the bottom and work your way up.
John (Old Fartz & TLS #37) Lieberman
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: More Minor Waiver Questions
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:05:10 -0600
From: "Peter Lyon" <PLyon@scca.com>
To: "John Lieberman" <jlieberman@sport.rr.com>
CC: "Judy Cox" <jcox@scca.com>, "Tasha Goodale" <TGoodale@scca.com>,
"Doug Robinson" <DRobinson@scca.com>
Hi John:
Good points. I do need to clarify the annual vs. permanent minor waiver
issue.
1). These are only to be considered annual waivers at this point for the
rationale that you mention. I allow Club Racing "spectator" minors to be
on a permanent minor waiver since Club Racing has its own licensing
procedures for minors "competing" as drivers or cornerworkers. Solo has
no such system and I'm not comfortable with minors "competing" on a
"permanent waiver basis.
2). ONLY the LEGAL (court appointed ) guardian or the parents can sign
the waiver. NO "written permission" slips from parents authorizing Joe
Neighbor to sign the waiver for minors.
What I mentioned about getting a written statement was regarding getting
a statement from thePARENT or LEGAL GUARDIAN that they had sole custody
or were the legal guardian respectively in lieu of showing actual court
papers (which is still preferred).
I'm in process of revising guidelines to reflect that minor waivers can
be annual only and not permanent (I was wishy-washy on this before and
I'll now clarify.
Thanks for your help and yes, will definitely write something for May.
thanks again for your help.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: John Lieberman [mailto:jlieberman@sport.rr.com]
Sent: Fri 2/28/2003 3:10 PM
To: Peter Lyon
Cc:
Subject: More Minor Waiver Questions
Hey, Neighbor!
I tried to call you this (Friday) afternoon but they said you were out
of the office for the day. So, I'll shoot this to you via email and/or
try to call you Monday.
A couple more questions have come up about minor waivers on
team-dot-net. I've tried to answer them to the best of my ability but
I've couched my responses by telling everybody to wait until I get a
direct interpretation from you before they take it as gospel.
Question 1) If BOTH parents sign the waiver form - and it's marked ALL
SCCA EVENTS/ALL DATES with a copy sent to Topeka - is that form valid
for the calendar year or until the minor reaches the age of majority?
It's my interpretation that the semi-permanent aspect only applied to
minor "spectator" waivers a couple of years ago - not to competition
waivers - and when we consolidated the two waivers into one, we went
back to a year-by-year basis.
Question 2) (and I'm pretty sure you discussed this during my Saturday
morning session at the National Convention - I'm just a little fuzzy on
your response!) What if a minor shows up at an event with some adult
who's not his parent or legal guardian - maybe an uncle or a neighbor?
It's my interpretation that no other adult can sign for the minor UNLESS
he or she has been given previous permission to do so - either in the
form of a written letter from the parents/guardians or, better yet, a
Power of Attorney from said parents/guardians.
Am I off base on either count?!?!?
With your permission, I would like to share your response with
team-dot-net and the Solo Safety Committee members - just to make sure
that we're all on the same page. And I still think that an article
addressing all waiver issues would be more than appropriate for the May
issue of the Safety Belt!! 8<{)
Thanks a bunch
John
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