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Re: 10 year Maximum Age for Stock Class (was Reclassing)

To: "Alan Pozner" <apozner@ptd.net>, "Patrick Washburn"
Subject: Re: 10 year Maximum Age for Stock Class (was Reclassing)
From: "Rick Cone" <rickcone@bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:11:56 -0400
About NASA...
> they are friendlier to newbies; they attract a younger audience.
This isn't an SCCA National problem, but a local one.

> Having two structures for National and Regional SOLO II will drive the
SCCA
> out of the grassroots autocross business.
What about SM/FJ/STR/SM2?
These weren't National Classes, and I think the regions do a fine job with
them.  Our region has several local only classes that don't fit National
classes, ie OSP.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Pozner" <apozner@ptd.net>
To: "Patrick Washburn" <washburn@dwave.net>; <Stefanv@aol.com>;
<autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: 10 year Maximum Age for Stock Class (was Reclassing)


> One final word and I will shut up.
>
> Having two structures for National and Regional SOLO II will drive the
SCCA
> out of the grassroots autocross business. In our area we are coming under
> increasing pressure from NASA. Their rules are easier to understand;
overall
> membership costs and event costs are the same or lower; they are
friendlier
> to newbies; they attract a younger audience.
>
> Once you cast off National level competition as being separate from
regional
> events; the regions' rules become a tower of babel. Each region has
> different rules; there is NO uniformity and the advantages (other than
event
> insurance) of a National organization become moot.
>
> NASA is more appealing to grassroots, non-national competitors now. Make
it
> so there is no direct path from regional to National level competition and
> NASA wins.
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Washburn" <washburn@dwave.net>
> To: <Stefanv@aol.com>; <autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: 10 year Maximum Age for Stock Class (was Reclassing)
>
>
> > To re-iterate what someone has already said, I would hope to see this as
> > National event classing rules only.  To do this at the regional level
> would
> > IMO be insane.  Maybe that adds a layer of complexity no one is willing
to
> > deal with.  (Two class lists?)  Of course regions are free to do what
they
> > want anyway, so I just don't see many regions enforcing this classing
> > structure if it were enacted.
> >
> > > As someone who has never owned a new car... nor do I see myself owning
a
> new
> > > car anytime in the forseeable future... this suggestion simply FEELS
> like
> > > elitism and exclusionism.  It feels that way, whether it is or not.
You
> > > don't like me playing at your country club, make a rule that makes it
> near
> > > impossible for me to do so.
> > >
> > > My newest vehicle (and not the one I autocross) is a 1994 model and
I've
> not
> > > yet owned it for a year.  The car I currently autox (albeit not in
stock
> > > class) is a '68.  Only two years ago I was autocrossingin stock class
> (and
> > > doing reasonably well locally) with an '86.
> > >
> > > -STEFAN
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