We had a similar deal happen with a motorhome...and felt it was the trailer
weight that sort of held things down. :) Stayed up and stopped safely in
between Battle Mountain and Elko, Nevada. :)
--Pat Kelly
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>From: "Phillip Osborne" <psosborn@gte.net>
>To: "'autox mailing list'" <autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Jeep Liberty Rollover
>Date: Tue, Nov 27, 2001, 7:30 PM
>
>Yeah, he IS kinda certifiable....
>But I see a lot of women driving pickup trucks, and many have kids with
>them....soccer moms perhaps?
>And I blew a tire on a 35 ft. RV at 75MPH pulling an 18ft. open trailer with
>Bud Collins' Neon on the back...wow, wonder why it didn't roll over...
>
>Phil O.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Thomas VandenOever" <tavandy1@airmail.net>
>To: "'autox mailing list'" <autox@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:48 PM
>Subject: RE: Jeep Liberty Rollover
>
>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]On
>> > Behalf Of Mark J. Andy
>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:59 PM
>> > To: autox mailing list
>> > Subject: Re: Jeep Liberty Rollover
>> >
>> >
>> > Howdy,
>> >
>> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Phillip Osborne wrote:
>> > > I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD V8 that handled pretty darn
>> > good too. In my
>> > > opinion, you can take any truck or SUV, two or 4WD and
>> > subject them to
>> > > certain conditions and effect a rollover. I've been in a
>> > few that have gone
>> > > up on two wheels (under closed loop conditions), and it
>> > ain't that difficult
>> > > to make them do it. It's funny to me that SUV's catch the
>> > flack, while they
>> > > are nothing more than a glorified truck with a topper. An
>> > SUV rolls and
>> > > it's headline news, a truck rolls and it's never mentioned...
>> >
>> > That's because soccer moms rarely are in the trucks...
>>
>> I have agree with Andy on this one. I work for a rather blue collar
>company.
>> There are quite a few "ladies" and "gentlemen" who work for this firm who
>> drive Expeditions, Jimmeys, Suburbans, and Excursions who believe that if
>> these vehicles weren't perfectly safe they wouldn't be available for sale.
>> They got the scare of their lives when one of these geniuses rolled their
>> SUV on an off ramp recently. Only time this Darwinian noticed the warning
>on
>> their sunvisor was when she climbed out over it! This person and several
>of
>> her coworkers give me grief constantly for racing in parking lots
>> (obligatory autocross content).
>>
>> Ford succesfully played Firestone for the pansy in the past media farce.
>> Great marketing runs circles around common sense. At least pickups are
>> marketed as tough vehicles for working people. Not stupid urban
>> vanity-mobiles to replace your car.
>>
>> I've blown a front tire on a Mercedes 230.6 at well over 120MPH (autobahn
>81
>> heading for Sindelfingen{Home of Diamler/Benz} from Manheim). It wasn't
>> easy, but I didn't hit anything. Blown a rear tire in a GTI doing about
>the
>> same(A5 between Heidelburg and Frankfurt). Got to the shoulder in one
>almost
>> smooth move. Driven a 935 from Cuxhavan to Munich in under 5 1/2 hours
>> (Yahoo says 533 miles and yes it was midnight when I started). Certifiable
>> Nut (ask Phil Osborne) who wouldn't drive any SUV over 80 in any case.
>>
>> Nomex on order
>> Tom VandenOever
>> ex #7 ES Neon "Greon"
>> Soon to be IT Neon "Bluon"
>>
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