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Re: Rollbars and cages in Solo 2

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Subject: Re: Rollbars and cages in Solo 2
From: "Scott Peterson" <scott.peterson2@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:06:12 -0500
Dennis,

If your story is true then a competitor that would like to
DQ  you based on your roll bar/Cage has no basis for a
protest.  A car such as yours requires, as a minimum, 1.5"
x .095 DOM tubing.  The key is that this is a minimum tube
size.  We have a legal EP car in the MIdWest divison that
uses 1.75 x .125 DOM tubing though out.  This cage is way
over built and heavy but the car passes a Regional and a
National annual inspection.

The other point that you raised is that all tubes in
a GCR cage must be of the same diameter and wall
thickness; this is not true in a Production/GT car.  Only
Improved Turning (IT) cars have this requirement.  Your
car is a combination of Production and GT, not IT.

My CP car has 2.0" x .125, 1.75 x .095, 1.5 x .125,
1.5 x .095, 1.25 x .095 etc. tubing in it.  The required
tubes meet or exceed the diameters and thicknesses
listed for a GT1 car under 3000 LBS.  Any thing else
uses thinner/smaller tubing to save wieght.  This car has
and will pass a Solo I inspection with requires that my car
have GT1 cage.

If you question my answer please check the GCR, the above
has been true for at least the last 5 years.  Or you could
check with the national office.  Never take the word of a
fellow competitor.....same as a wooden Nickel!

Scott (Tubes from Hell) Peterson
CP117



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-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hale <dhale_510@yahoo.com>
To: Team.Net <autox@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, September 03, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: Rollbars and cages in Solo 2


>The rollbar issues are often subjects not of safety
>concerns but just excuses for mean spiritness. In the
>name of competitive some folks just use any excuse to
>disqualify the competition, especially if they can't
>beat them straight up.
>Personally, I had a long foolishness with the roll bar
>and cage in my EP class 510. The car requires neither
>a rollbar nor cage as it is a sedan. But I wanted
>more. So I put in a roll bar. A book legal 2" x .120"
>Autopower rollbar. Ran it like that for years, no
>problem. Then I wanted a full cage. Built it from the
>legal 1 1/2" stuff but used the former bar hoop as the
>basis. A big no no, the CGR required ALL the same
>diameter tubing! Overbuilt was a no no. Local
>"competitor" Komush quickly pointed this out and
>threatened to DQ me any time I may beat him, with
>assurance his buddy Mr Davis would back him up as if a
>local autocross were Nationals.
>I understand this "loophole" has been closed but the
>attitudes remain....... And driving 2000 miles to
>autocross with such "safety" concerns so prevalent is
>a really tough sell.
>The "enforcements" are historically very selective on
>such matters. And the issues are seldom out of any
>real concern for another's safety! To be sure Mr
>Komush could care less about my safety!
>Bah.
>
>=====
>Dennis Hale
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