Yeah I know what you mean on the 17's, same goes for the 18's that are
available. The whole thing about comparing a Boxster to a Spyder is...
well.. apples and oranges. I have a pet peeve about "tests" that are
carefully selected and engineered to compare cars when in fact the two cars
are not in the same ball park in a lot of areas. kinda like comparing a old
bug with a 911. Sure you can do it, but why ;-).
I think it's funny they mentioned comparing the car to a Miata but didn't.
I bet those results would be interesting also, and it is in the same price
range and target market.
After driving the 2.8 coupe one year, this car is hopelessly plagued with an
over soft, unadjustable, and poor suspension compared to any of the top AS
cars. The added power will help, but the car is major catch up as it is.
I'm starting to think the M coupe would just start to be competitive ;-).
---JCG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Thomason" <gtsolo2@home.net>
To: "JCGZ3" <jcgz3@hotmail.com>
Cc: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Course design at Meridian
> Joe, Joe, Joe!
>
> They test a standard-equipped Boxster at approx $42K versus a standard-
> equipped MR2 Spyder at approx $23K and you think this is unfair in some
> way to the *Boxster*??? Puh-leez. :-)
>
> The Boxster would certainly have done better in the handling and possibly
> in the braking test with the *optional* 17's, but the acceleration would
> almost certainly been slightly slower. I remember doing testing on a
> 2.8 BMW Z3 that was fully .25 slower (same vehicle) to sixty with the 17's
> versus the 16 inch wheels due to a combination of less forward traction
> and higher weight/inertia.
>
> BTW, I expect the 3.0L Z3 is going to be very strong in AS this year.
> Gonna give you some competition besides those Boxsters on their
> optional 17's. ;-)
>
> Gary
>
> JCGZ3 wrote:
> >
> > Talk about manipulated statistics. I'd like to see a more "complete"
test,
> > with the Boxster on the 17" wheels (nobody, I mean nobody get's a
boxster
> > with the narrow 16" wheels).
> > ---JCG
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Randy Chase" <randyc2@home.com>
> > To: <autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 8:09 AM
> > Subject: RE: Course design at Meridian
> >
> > > > Hehe... those BS Mr2 Spyders must have had the
> > > > optional turbo installed! They were running less than
> > > > a second off Super-Stock in the dry at the fast five
> > > > shootout in the afternoon. And BS killed FS's time in
> > > > the shootout (sorry Alex - I know you didn't get
> > > > enough dry time), so I humbly disagree that power was
> > > > all that mattered.
> > >
> > > It is not like the Spyder is a low powered car, specially relative to
it's
> > > weight. Factor in it's linear power band, and that car moves pretty
> > quickly.
> > > Check out http://www.isthistoyota.com/mr2club/default.htm and click on
> > AMCI
> > > Test under Performance. Watch the video of the acceleration of this
car
> > > against a Porsche Boxster. Not too shabby. :-)
> > >
> > > Now if a truly slow car was close to SS times, then you have a very
slow
> > > course.
> > >
> > > Randy Chase
> > > MR2, but slower than a Spyder
> > >
> > > Heard about "Ginger"?
> > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000059MSD/
> > > http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2693092,00.html
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