Hello All,
Mark Darby (markds33@yahoo.com) wrote:
>To whom it may concern:
>Regarding the classification of the Neon in Class 5 I
>have compiled two years worth of results comparing the
>Neon's time to the cars in the proposed class. Here
>are my findings:
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>The events that had no entrants were thrown out and no
>consideration to different weather conditions were
>given.
>The D Stock heading means the time for the fastest
>Neon. The G Stock heading means the fastest time
>for:Type R,Turbo Eclipse/Talon,Camaro,Corrado(ie
>current G Stock cars)
>The average time differential for 1999 was G Stock
>cars faster on average by .617 of a second.
>The average time differential for 2000,so far,is 2.178
>seconds that the G Stock cars have the advantage!
Mark's e-mail finally gave me the impetus to do some
data digging that I've been meaning to do to support a theory
I had about what these results would really show.
Here is an updated listing - Mark missed some of the fast
GS cars that ran National Series in '99 and I've added
driver/car info as well. This should look OK in a fixed
width font.
1999 D Stock G Stock
---- ------- -------
Ft. Meyers Pro 72.801 73.530 (+0.729)
Daddio McIver/Eclipse
73.379 (+0.151)
Leverone
San Bernardino Pro 69.759 68.570 (-1.181)
Molleker Bauer/TypeR
Atwater Pro 62.869 62.545 (-0.324)
Molleker Smith/TypeR
Peru Pro 80.945 81.324 (+0.379)
Zoner Stratton/Eclipse
81.147 (+0.177)
Daddio
Petersburg Pro 61.884 62.627 (+0.743)
Daddio Stratton/Eclipse
62.349 (+0.278)
Miller
Harrisburg Pro 56.001 56.856 (+0.855)
Daddio McIver/Eclipse
57.020 (-0.164)
Zoner
Seattle Pro 80.348 79.273 (-1.075)
Fauth Bauer/TypeR
Wendover Pro 62.287 60.918 (-1.369)
Daddio Bauer/TypeR
62.839 (-1.921)
Molleker
Finale Pro 62.266 62.617 (+0.351)
Daddio Bauer/TypeR
63.531 (-0.914)
Collins
Meridian N.T. 101.568 101.441 (-0.127)
Leverone Goeke/Eclipse
San Diego N.T. 127.440 125.901 (-1.539)
Molleker Bauer/TypeR
Fort Worth N.T. 150.611 148.405 (-2.206)
Collins Bellamy/Camaro
Ayer N.T. 88.298 91.192 (+2.894)
Daddio Bellom/Camaro
89.918 (+1.274)
Washburn
Evansville N.T. 85.972 86.163 (+0.191)
Hughes Ledford/Eclipse
Seattle N.T. 81.774 80.279 (-1.495)
Molleker Bauer/TypeR
Fountain N.T. 126.922 123.459 (-3.463)
Fauth Bauer/TypeR
Nationals 120.156 121.480 (+1.324)
Daddio Endicott/TypeR
122.469 (-0.989)
Molleker
2000 D Stock G Stock
---- ------- -------
Ft. Meyers Pro 74.327 74.418 (+0.091)
Shields Stratton/Eclipse
San Bernardino Pro 71.318 67.284 (-4.034)
Szabo McCormick/TypeR
Lemoore Pro 69.670 67.179 (-2.491)
Darby McCormick/TypeR
Peru Pro 77.190 75.197 (-1.993)
Couture McIver/Eclipse
Petersburg Pro 58.652 56.756 (-1.896)
Miller McIver/Eclipse
Harrisburg Pro 60.980 59.768 (-1.212)
Zoner Stratton/Eclipse
Wendover Pro 62.977 60.564 (-2.413)
Miller McCormick/TypeR
Meridian N.T. 106.836 106.326 (-0.510)
Wright Ledford/Eclipse
San Diego N.T. 119.193 117.232 (-1.961)
Hamilton Smith/TypeR
Fort Worth N.T. 145.651 140.440 (-5.211)
Collins Smith/TypeR
Ayer N.T. 119.437 120.062 (+0.625)
Zoner Saini/Corrado
Peru N.T. 92.662 92.115 (-0.547)
Hughes Wilson/Prelude
Bremerton N.T. 99.565 95.868 (-3.697)
Darby McCormick/TypeR
AVERAGE MARGINS
---------------
1999 ALL 17 EVENTS:
w/Daddio: -0.324 (GS ahead)
w/o Daddio: -0.772 (GS ahead more)
1999 ONLY THE 8 EVENTS THAT DADDIO RAN:
w/Daddio: +0.713 (DS ahead!)
w/o Daddio: -0.238 (GS ahead!)
1999 ONLY THE 9 EVENTS THAT DADDIO DIDN'T RUN:
-1.247 (GS way ahead)
2000 ALL EVENTS (No Daddio):
-1.942 (GS in another county)
Yes, there is no accounting for weather and course favoritism,
and yes, there is probably a better way of looking at it other
than average raw time differential, but I think some points can be drawn.
If you look at the '99 results, it is apparent that Daddio is inhuman! ;-)
Seriously, I hate to single him out like this (he is human, and he can
be beat, as shown above), but his presence skews the results remarkably.
While the overall '99 average is slightly in GS's favor, with Mark removed,
the average margin jumps from .324 to .772 - a significant difference I
think
even though lots of variables are uncontrolled/unaccounted for.
Looking at only the events Mark did or did not run is even more telling:
with him running, DS wins those 8 events by an average of .713
without him, GS wins those same 8 events by .238.
So, should the Neons to the new 'Class 5'?
Well, someone asked a while back if it's any different to get beat by
Daddio by 2 sec. or beat by McCormick/Stratton/etc by 2 sec.
Theoretically, no, but when you get beat that bad by Daddio (I have
some experience here :), you KNOW it is something you could do with
better set-up and skill. It gives you a target to shoot for that is
attainable.
It is going to take a heroic effort for someone to match Daddio's
performance
(without having him as a benchmark), and run a Neon competitively against
the type R's and DSM's. Plus, are the GS cars getting quicker with better
set-up? Could even Daddio catch them now?
I don't know.
Have fun,
John Ryan
ryan@ctc.com
DS/Neon ACR
tongue in cheek epilogue:
I have another theory - Chrysler is engineering the SCAC restructure!
Why? They want all the DS Neons to go to ST and kick butt there so Chrysler
can claim victory over all the imports! Much better marketing!
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