At 02:04 PM 3/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
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>>There isn't a legal ESP pony car out there that will snap tires loose in
>>2nd gear. What you obviously don't realize is the Supra was bogged badly
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>I really don't know where did you get this one from. I drove few and I was
>driven in some of them and they can burn those tires at will. They where
>all manual though, and that makes a lot of difference, but still.
Okay, whadda I know about f-bodies...... You can spin the tires in a Neon
in 2nd gear if you shift it and nail it. I'm talking about rolling along
and standing on it.
>>promptly BEFORE it left all that BFG rubber on the ground. It wasn't
>>because the clutch was dropped @ 4k or so. My car wouldn't leave any mark
>>leaving @ 4k, because my antiquated axle would've fallen out long ago.
>And
>>the fact that my converter stalls @ about 1200 rpm.
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>Even stock (pre 99) Mustang will spin its tires in first and second
>(probably third one as well) at the drag strip with drag racing radials.
>And they have 225 HP or so. Here we are talking about pony cars with over
>300HP and over 300 ft-lbs.
This is not the same coming out of a corner in a gear. Again, a little old
Neon will *can* blow off the tires in 2nd gear.
>>Oh, and since I was thinking about your lack of torque argument/tiny
>engine
>>argument answer me this: How does a little 1.3 (effectively 2.6L engine)
>>in an RX7 that make barely any more torque than your car @ 217 foot pound
>>at a stratospheric 5000 rpm or so manage to beat up on a big mean 5.7L in
>>SS? That alone takes that argument and makes it moot.
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>Well, I am really no expert at all when those cars are in question. But I
>do know this. Those RX7s are lighter than anything else that comes with V8
>engine (and we are talking 500 or more pounds, 1/2 sec on the quarter
>mile). I have newer drove one, but Andy B. gave me a ride ones, and it was
>scary. The way those cars turn and the way those cars stop is just
>amassing.
And a Vette is about 3300-3400, an RX7 is around 28-2900. A Camaro is
3400, what's a light DSM???? Lighter I bet. And a rotary doesn't make
torque like a 2.0 four cylinder. That car is totally dependent on the
turbos. I've driven them, I know.
>Also, I would not use volume of this car as something to compare to others.
>This is the only one with a rotary engine and they are different beast to
>start with. Two cylinders are 6 in fact and volume should be at least three
>times more than speced one. Plus, they have a two turbos.
Hmmmm, that's amazing. When they are classed to road race (IMSA etc.) the
little 1.3's were in GTU which is UNDER 3.0L for a piston engine. 3 times
1.3 would have had it in GTO (over 3 liters). It's effectively doubled,
not tripled.
>And, I was not complaining about lack of torque. Even with a boost
>controller and something crazy like 25 psi of boost, my car would make
>slightly over 300 ft-lbs. And that is still max torque while I am on the
>boost after 3500 RPMs. You guys have over my max torque around 2k RPM
>already. Those are the facts and I can not change them here.
And an RX7 still only makes 217 in stock form. As the old saying goes, it
ain't the size of the wave, it's the motion of the ocean........
Sam Strano Jr.
Strano Performance Parts
800-729-1831
814-849-3417 (tech.)
www.stranoparts.com
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