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Re: What temp should I expect

To: Louis & Laila <bwana@c2i2.com>, Alpine folks
Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
From: Kurt Eckert <kurt@kurteckert.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 08:29:06 -0400
I was not planning on running the car for any period of time without the
thermostat in the engine. This was a test to see if the thermostat was the
culprit in the overheating problem. It is not, so I need to look in other
areas. It is not likely that it is a clogged black as it is a brand new
engine that was completely cleaned and blueprinted. I saw the engine before
it was put back together and it was a high quality rebuild. I have exhausted
the tests that I am capable of doing so I am going to bring it to the shop
and have a pro look it it.

Kurt

On 9/7/03 9:15 PM, "Louis & Laila" <bwana@c2i2.com> wrote:

> Don't run a car without a thermostat, it will ruin it. The reason for this
> is the heat capacity for water. It is more immune to temp fluctuations and
> absorbtion than iron. Therefore, if you take the thermostat out, the water
> flows through the block quickly, failing to absorb heat. It is then takne to
> the rad where it loses heat. Your block is now operating at a higher
> temperature than your guage is reading, while your water isn't cooling it
> down as much as it should. Having personaly ruined a Tiger motor doing just
> this, I am speaking from experieince. Most Alpine heating problems are due
> to a clogged block. Pull the freeze plugs, and use some acid to disolve it,
> use a coat hanger or other probe, and flush it out.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kurt Eckert" <kurt@kurteckert.com>
> To: "Alpine folks" <alpines@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 5:27 PM
> Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
> 
> 
>> Well I ran the car today without a thermostat and ran into the same
> problem.
>> I guess it is time to start looking deeper into the engine as a problem.
>> 
>> Kurt
>> 
>> On 9/4/03 5:35 PM, "Thomas Wiencek" <wiencek@anl.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> Please tell us what you find.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-alpines@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-alpines@autox.team.net]
>>> On Behalf Of Kurt Eckert
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:08 AM
>>> To: Alpine folks
>>> Subject: Re: What temp should I expect
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the info,
>>> 
>>> It is a complete rebuild done by Bob "Herbeam" Willis and Smitty's of
>>> San
>>> Diego a few years ago. It has less then 150 miles on it after the
>>> rebuild.
>>> So effectively it is a new engine. I am going to pull out the thermostat
>>> and
>>> try running it without that to see if that might be causing the problem.
>>> If
>>> that is not it then I will check to see if I have any combustion gases
>>> in
>>> the water system. I really hope not. :(
>>> 
>>> Kurt
>>> 
>>> On 9/3/03 1:09 AM, "jumpinjan" <jservaites@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Kurt Eckert wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been having a problem with my 3GT overheating and attributed
>>> it to
>>>>> the 40 year old radiator. Well I got my radiator back from being
>>> re-cored
>>>>> with a modern 3 core setup and I am still getting steam coming out
>>> from
>>>>> under the hood after a few minutes of driving. What sort of temp
>>> should I
>>>>> expect?
>>>> 
>>>> If you get steam after a few minutes of driving, then it's not the
>>>> radiator. I have never seen any problems with the water pump
>>> overheating
>>>> the engine. I suspect some deeper problems like head gasket failure
>>>> and/or sediment build up in the block. How long has it been since the
>>>> last engine rebuild?
>>>> Jan

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