The disk type commutator starters were Lucas replacements.
Jan
KKJ <kkj@privat.utfors.se> wrote:
Still the modern starter are smaller and stronger.
And that small bronze bearing that have to take the whole load. As an engineer
I have an unpleasant feeling about this. And that is also an important
argument!!
It would be possibly to replace the bronze bearing with an roller bearing!
The starter in my Imp 875 cc. is the same as in my 1725 engines and the
starter is really spinning that engine, but its not "spinning" the 1725
engine. Its more like "dragging it around"
We have cold winters here.
I think I have 15 old type ( sliding gear engage by movement) starters. two of
them can be used (I hope) as reserve. Rest is junk. Bronze bearing and
commutator bad. (why haven't I get rid of them?)
I also have 6 of the "solenoid engaged" from Hunters. They are OK every one.
(Barrel commutator type). They seem to last better then the sliding gear.
Some of these Hunter starters are even bigger then the others. I don't know
why.
The only disk commutator starter I have is from a Ford Cortina. On later
Hunters and Avangers maybe??
The modern starter electrical motors are spinning faster because they have a
reduction gear and as a result the electrical motor are smaller (Sometimes
even smaller then the solenoid sitting beside it.)
Of course Lucas and others could have done this in the -50 -60, but the
production cost to make the reduction gear was probably to high at that time.
Kristian J
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Skickat: den 24 mars 2003 01:02
Dmne: Re: SV: "Hillman - " Starter
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>
> All I can say is "Amen"
> My hotted up high compression
> (take 0.1" off head and see what you get for compression :-))
> Static compression tested at 175psi.
> Never had starter motor problems.
> Did have dead batteries 'cause I could never afford a decent one.
>
> Keith
> 55 Californian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jumpinjan" <jservaites@woh.rr.com>
> To: "KKJ" <kkj@privat.utfors.se>
> Cc: "alpine autox" <alpines@autox.team.net>; <hillman@can-inc.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: SV: "Hillman - " Starter
>
>
> > I don't understand why people think new technology will work better if
> > you just get a good starter to begin with? I drove my Alpine, back in
> > the '70s, for many years and never had any starter problems (and I was
> > using 12.5:1 compression in my engine). I guess my recommendation is to
> > buy a rebuilt one from Rick at S.S. and be done with it.
> > Jan
> >
>
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