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A big draw back for the Datsun was the lack of a soft top.
Jim Hurley
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> 1. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Alex & Janet Thomson)
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> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 20:53:43 -0500
> From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson@charter.net>
> To: "'Bob'" <yellowtr@adelphia.net>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>, "'six
> pack'" <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
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> And, if you can't find a good used frame, there is always the option of a
> new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an
> advantage of an "old technology" frame/body car.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net; six pack
> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
>
>
>
> Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads covered
> with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of time
> cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the end i=
t
> was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame
> strengthening kit. The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and
> it
> basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and th=
ey
> couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At least o=
n
> the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick up one
> in
> decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc.
>
> I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see
> quite
> a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine were the
> carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted a pair on my 72 as I was not=
a
> fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years.
>
> Bob
>
> On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed
>
>
>
> Fun article
>
>
>
>
> https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-b=
att
> le-america?utm_source=3Dsfmc
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> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 07:23:37 -0400
> From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net>
> To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, "6pack@autox.team.net"
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> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
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> Back in the early 70?s I had two successive 240 Z cars. The first one
> was a 1972 before emissions equipment, it went like hell and was dependab=
le
> and durable. I drove that one until the body was so compromised from New
> England winters that I had to give it up. I made the mistake of then buyi=
ng
> a 1974 TR6 with emission controls. It was a dog comprehend to the 1972. =
As
> it happens, I have a brochure reprint of a head to head comparison of the
> TR6 and the 240 Z originally done by Road and Track. The advantage went =
to
> the 240 Z when speed picked up and aerodynamics came into play. I?m away
> now, but when I get home I?ll make a PDF of the brochure and post it to t=
he
> list.
> Best,
> Bob
>
> > On Feb 5, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <
> aljlthomson@charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > And, if you can?t find a good used frame, there is always the option of
> a new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an
> advantage of an ?old technology? frame/body car.
> >
> > Alex Thomson
> >
> 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of Bob
> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
> >
> > Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads
> covered with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton =
of
> time cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the
> end it was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame
> strengthening kit. The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and
> it basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and
> they couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At
> least on the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pi=
ck
> up one in decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc.
> >
> > I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see
> quite a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine wer=
e
> the carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted a pair on my 72 as I was
> not a fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:
> >> Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed
> >>
> >> Fun article
> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>A big draw back for the Datsun was the lack of a soft=
top.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim Hurley</div><div><br></div><div><br></di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Alex & Janet Thomson)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Robert Rochlin)<br>
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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 20:53:43 -0500<br>
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomso=
n@charter.net" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>><br>
To: "'Bob'" <<a href=3D"mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">yellowtr@adelphia.net</a>>, <<a href=3D"mailto:triu=
mphs@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>, &qu=
ot;'six<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 pack'" <<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">6pack@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
et" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">charter.net</a>><br>
<br>
And, if you can't find a good used frame, there is always the option of=
a<br>
new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an<br>
advantage of an "old technology" frame/body car.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Alex Thomson<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a>; six pack<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads covered<b=
r>
with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of time<br=
>
cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the end it<=
br>
was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame<br>
strengthening kit.=C2=A0 The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one =
and it<br>
basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and =
they<br>
couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At least on<=
br>
the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick up one i=
n<br>
decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc. <br>
<br>
I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see quit=
e<br>
a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine were th=
e<br>
carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted=C2=A0 a pair on my 72 as I was =
not a<br>
fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years. <br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:<br>
<br>
Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Fun article<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 07:23:37 -0400<br>
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_blank">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: Triumphs <<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
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Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
ast.net" target=3D"_blank">A44B6742-20AE-4F67-8543-F5759C3B50DD@comcast.net=
</a>><br>
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0Back in the early 70?s I had two successive 240 Z cars.=C2=A0 =
The first one was a 1972 before emissions equipment, it went like hell and =
was dependable and durable.=C2=A0 I drove that one until the body was so co=
mpromised from New England winters that I had to give it up. I made the mis=
take of then buying a 1974 TR6 with emission controls. It was a dog compreh=
end to the 1972.=C2=A0 As it happens, I have a brochure reprint of a head t=
o head comparison of the TR6 and the 240 Z originally done by Road and Trac=
k.=C2=A0 The advantage went to the 240 Z when speed picked up and aerodynam=
ics came into play. I?m away now, but when I get home I?ll make a PDF of th=
e brochure and post it to the list.<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bob<br>
<br>
> On Feb 5, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>=
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> And, if you can?t find a good used frame, there is always the option o=
f a new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an a=
dvantage of an ?old technology? frame/body car.<br>
>=C2=A0 <br>
> Alex Thomson<br>
>=C2=A0 <br>
> From: 6pack [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mail=
to:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM<br>
> To: <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">trium=
phs@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; six pack<br>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
>=C2=A0 <br>
> Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads cove=
red with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of tim=
e cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the end i=
t was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame streng=
thening kit.=C2=A0 The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and it=
basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and=
they couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At lea=
st on the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick up=
one in decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc. <br>
> <br>
> I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see=
quite a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine =
were the carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted=C2=A0 a pair on my 72 =
as I was not a fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years=
. <br>
> <br>
> Bob<br>
> <br>
> On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:<br>
>> Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed<br>
>>=C2=A0 <br>
>> Fun article<br>
>>=C2=A0 <br>
>> <a href=3D"https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240=
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