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Please take this opportunity to clean all the wires and connectors.
SimpleGreen works great. Your effort will repay you.
Rick
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:20 PM tr6roadster via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Yes I do have that schematic, and like you, I believe that the relay is
> the problem. I have one coming in soon, maybe today, I'll keep you
> posted. Thanks to everyone that has an input into my problem.
>
> A. Guzman
> "76 Java Green TR6
>
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 02:27:36 +0000
> From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
> To: "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Electrical problems
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> First, do you have the nice color schematics, found here.
> http://www.advanceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf
>
> I'm no electrician, but have had pretty good luck. Looking at the purple
> circuit on a 76, it does seem there's a connection with the horn and the
> flash-to-pass switch. Could it be your horn relay is going bad, and sending
> negative back up thru the purple wire, and it's making its way over to the
> flash-to-pass/dimmer switch, causing your lights to blink? Do they blink
> 'on' or 'off', and does the horn also blow?
>
> Be aware that the headlight circuit is not fused or even protected by a
> circuit breaker, so you could be treading in dangerous waters. You'll see
> the brown wires are a direct connection between the battery and the
> headlight switch, and also provide the 12v power to the purple circuit
> which is the 'always' on fuse (horn, glove box, hazard flashers). So this
> is all definitely related.
>
> Sloane
> ________________________________
> From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of tr6roadster via
> 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:13 PM
>
> Sorry I was not too specific on describing my problem. It is the
> headlights that blink when I press the horn button. I've had the car for
> 18 years, daily driver, never had an electrical issue until now, other
> than a bad
> starter and alternator.
>
> A. Guzman
> '76 TR6-Java Green
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:36:40 -0500
> From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com>
> To: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [6pack] Electrical problems
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> Thanks! I have seen those schematics but didn't have a copy. Sloane, I
> think you are right. The stalk switches and horn relay are likely culprits.
> The kinds of quieky electrical problems that Mr. Guzman is addressing often
> stem from broken grounds but a short in the stalk switches may eventually
> be found. (Assumption that 'A.' is male, thus the prefix 'Mr.'. Although
> today, assuming a gender is PC suicide.) Anyway...
> Good words of caution about un-fused circuits. I once saw an interesting
> gadget. It was a fuse holder, with a 20A fuse installed, and clip lead on
> one end and a battery terminal connector on the other. The idea is to
> remove the negative battery lead, attach the clip to the cable and place
> the other on the battery post. Any circuit except the starter could work
> but an accidental short circuit would pop the fuse rather than burning the
> harness - or worse.
> From the pictures that A. sent, it would be good maintenance to
> disconnect the battery and un-mount the relays for cleaning. As we know,
> the lower relay is the starter relay. It keeps starter solenoid current
> from the ignition switch and helps provide the seat belt starter interlock.
> A. also notes that the upper relay, the horn relay, shows a lot of
> corrosion and that he has a new one on order. Great opportunity to clean
> all the wires and Lucar connectors and verify that they still fit securely
> on to the 1/4" male tabs. If not, replace them. I use SimpleGreen for
> cleaning followed by brake cleaner as needed.
> A. also reports that although the horn relay 'clicks' at the press of
> the horn push, the horns do not sound. This again suggests a bad horn
> relay. Although why the headlights flash on is more likely to be a short in
> the column or associated stalk switches. Testing continues...
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 10:43 PM im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> > First, do you have the nice color schematics, found here.
> > http://www.advanceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf
> >
> > I'm no electrician, but have had pretty good luck. Looking at the purple
> > circuit on a 76, it does seem there's a connection with the horn and the
> > flash-to-pass switch. Could it be your horn relay is going bad, and
> sending
> > negative back up thru the purple wire, and it's making its way over to
> the
> > flash-to-pass/dimmer switch, causing your lights to blink? Do they blink
> > 'on' or 'off', and does the horn also blow?
> >
> > Be aware that the headlight circuit is not fused or even protected by a
> > circuit breaker, so you could be treading in dangerous waters. You'll
> see
> > the brown wires are a direct connection between the battery and the
> > headlight switch, and also provide the 12v power to the purple circuit
> > which is the 'always' on fuse (horn, glove box, hazard flashers). So
> this
> > is all definitely related.
> >
> > Sloane
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of tr6roadster
> via
> > 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:13 PM
> >
> > Sorry I was not too specific on describing my problem. It is the
> > headlights that blink when I press the horn button. I've had the car for
> > 18 years, daily driver, never had an electrical issue until now, other
> > than a bad
> > starter and alternator.
> >
> > A. Guzman
> > '76 TR6-Java Green
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> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2019 11:59:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Electrical problems
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> Thanks for the reminder about this collection of schematics.? I've had
> these for many years and I have referred to them on many occasions.? Kudos
> to Dan Masters who put a lot of time in research and drawing these up.
> The Purple wire feeds the horns and the Flash-to-Pass function but the
> main power for the headlights comes directly from the power tap on the
> battery cable so unless you are driving around holding the Flash-to-Pass I
> am at a loss to explain a direct interconnection.? A dodgy connection in
> the fuse block could be the cause if it were otherwise.? Something to look
> for is a wire-to-wire short in the harnesses that lead down from the
> steering wheel.
>
> Did you or anyone else do some work under the dash and disconnect and
> reconnect wires?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2019 10:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Electrical problems
>
> #yiv4335451509 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}First, do you have the
> nice color schematics, found here.?
> http://www.advanceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf
> I'm no electrician, but have had pretty good luck. Looking at the purple
> circuit on a 76, it does seem there's a connection with the horn and the
> flash-to-pass switch. Could it be your horn relay is going bad, and sending
> negative back up thru the purple wire, and it's making its way over to the
> flash-to-pass/dimmer switch, causing your lights to blink? Do they blink
> 'on' or 'off', and does the horn also blow??
> Be aware that the headlight circuit is not fused or even protected by a
> circuit breaker, so? you could be treading in dangerous waters. You'll see
> the brown wires are a direct connection between the battery and the
> headlight switch, and also provide the 12v power to the purple circuit
> which is the 'always' on fuse (horn, glove box, hazard flashers).? So this
> is all definitely related.?
> Sloane??From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of
> tr6roadster via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:13 PM
>
> Sorry I was not too specific on describing my problem.? It is the
> headlights that blink when I press the horn button.? I've had the car for
> 18 years,? daily driver, never had an electrical issue until now,? other
> than a badstarter and alternator.??
> A. Guzman'76 TR6-Java Green?_______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes I do have that schematic,=C2=A0 and like you, =
I believe that the relay is the problem.=C2=A0 I have one coming in soon,=
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] Electrical problems<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:BN6PR18MB1140AFE2AB23BA=
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859-1"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">First, do =
you have the nice color schematics, found here. <a href=3D"http://www.advan=
ceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.=
advanceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">I'm no electrician, but have had pretty good luck. Looking=
at the purple circuit on a 76, it does seem there's a connection with =
the horn and the flash-to-pass switch. Could it be your horn relay is going=
bad, and sending negative back up thru the purple wire, and it's makin=
g its way over to the flash-to-pass/dimmer switch, causing your lights to b=
link? Do they blink 'on' or 'off', and does the horn also b=
low?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Be aware that the=
headlight circuit is not fused or even protected by a circuit breaker, so=
=C2=A0 you could be treading in dangerous waters. You'll see the brown =
wires are a direct connection between the battery and the headlight switch,=
and also provide the 12v power to the purple circuit which is the 'alw=
ays' on fuse (horn, glove box, hazard flashers).=C2=A0 So this is all d=
efinitely related.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Slo=
ane<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">________________________________<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">From: 6pack <<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>=
; on behalf of tr6roadster via 6pack <<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry I was not too specific on=
describing my problem.=C2=A0 It is the headlights that blink when I press =
the horn button.=C2=A0 I've had the car for 18 years,=C2=A0 daily drive=
r, never had an electrical issue until now,=C2=A0 other than a bad<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">starter and alternator.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">A. Guzman<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">'76 TR6-Java Gr=
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ck] Electrical problems<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAOc+-dwgYJrdFXEUwTYU4QvYQWtY8_ki=3DJXv=
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ent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 Thanks! I have seen those schematics bu=
t didn't have a copy. Sloane, I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think you are=
right. The stalk switches and horn relay are likely culprits.<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">The kinds of quieky electrical problems that Mr. Guzman is ad=
dressing often<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">stem from broken grounds but a sho=
rt in the stalk switches may eventually<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be found.=
(Assumption that 'A.' is male, thus the prefix 'Mr.'. Alth=
ough<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">today, assuming a gender is PC suicide.) Any=
way...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 Good words of caution about un-fus=
ed circuits. I once saw an interesting<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">gadget. It=
was a fuse holder, with a 20A fuse installed, and clip lead on<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">one end and a battery terminal connector on the other. The i=
dea is to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">remove the negative battery lead, attac=
h the clip to the cable and place<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the other on th=
e battery post. Any circuit except the starter could work<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">but an accidental short circuit would pop the fuse rather than bur=
ning the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">harness - or worse.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=C2=A0 From the pictures that A. sent, it would be good maintenance =
to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">disconnect the battery and un-mount the relays=
for cleaning. As we know,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the lower relay is the=
starter relay. It keeps starter solenoid current<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>from the ignition switch and helps provide the seat belt starter interlock=
.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A. also notes that the upper relay, the horn re=
lay, shows a lot of<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">corrosion and that he has a n=
ew one on order. Great opportunity to clean<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">all t=
he wires and Lucar connectors and verify that they still fit securely<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">on to the 1/4" male tabs. If not, replace them. I=
use SimpleGreen for<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">cleaning followed by brake c=
leaner as needed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 A. also reports that al=
though the horn relay 'clicks' at the press of<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">the horn push, the horns do not sound. This again suggests a bad horn=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">relay. Although why the headlights flash on is m=
ore likely to be a short in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the column or associa=
ted stalk switches. Testing continues...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 10:43 PM im sloane via 6pack <<a href=3D"mailto:=
6pack@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">6pack@autox.team=
.net</a>><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> First, do you have the nice color schematics, =
found here.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> <a href=3D"http://www.advanceaut=
owire.com/tr2506.pdf" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.advan=
ceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">> I'm no electrician, but have had pretty good luck. Loo=
king at the purple<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> circuit on a 76, it does =
seem there's a connection with the horn and the<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">> flash-to-pass switch. Could it be your horn relay is going bad, and=
sending<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> negative back up thru the purple wi=
re, and it's making its way over to the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> =
flash-to-pass/dimmer switch, causing your lights to blink? Do they blink<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 'on' or 'off', and does the ho=
rn also blow?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>=
Be aware that the headlight circuit is not fused or even protected by a<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> circuit breaker, so=C2=A0 you could be treadin=
g in dangerous waters. You'll see<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> the br=
own wires are a direct connection between the battery and the<br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">> headlight switch, and also provide the 12v power to the p=
urple circuit<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> which is the 'always' =
on fuse (horn, glove box, hazard flashers).=C2=A0 So this<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> is all definitely related.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Sloane<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> ---------=
---------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> *From:* 6pack <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of tr6roadster via<br>=
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iv><div dir=3D"ltr">> *Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:13 PM<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> Sorry I was not to=
o specific on describing my problem.=C2=A0 It is the<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">> headlights that blink when I press the horn button.=C2=A0 I've=
had the car for<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> 18 years,=C2=A0 daily drive=
r, never had an electrical issue until now,=C2=A0 other<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">> than a bad<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> starter and alterna=
tor.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> A. Guzma=
n<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">> '76 TR6-Java Green<br></div><div dir=
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k@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [6pack] Electri=
cal problems<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: <<a href=3D"mailto:90=
6516148.4541438.1568375992543@mail.yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nore=
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v dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> Thanks for the reminder abou=
t this collection of schematics.? I've had these for many years and I h=
ave referred to them on many occasions.? Kudos to Dan Masters who put a lot=
of time in research and drawing these up.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Pu=
rple wire feeds the horns and the Flash-to-Pass function but the main power=
for the headlights comes directly from the power tap on the battery cable =
so unless you are driving around holding the Flash-to-Pass I am at a loss t=
o explain a direct interconnection.? A dodgy connection in the fuse block c=
ould be the cause if it were otherwise.? Something to look for is a wire-to=
-wire short in the harnesses that lead down from the steering wheel.<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Did you or anyone else do so=
me work under the dash and disconnect and reconnect wires?<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">-----Original Message-----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: im sloane via=
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ct: Re: [6pack] Electrical problems<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">#yiv4335451509 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}First, do you=
have the nice color schematics, found here.?<a href=3D"http://www.advancea=
utowire.com/tr2506.pdf" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://www.adv=
anceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm no electr=
ician, but have had pretty good luck. Looking at the purple circuit on a 76=
, it does seem there's a connection with the horn and the flash-to-pass=
switch. Could it be your horn relay is going bad, and sending negative bac=
k up thru the purple wire, and it's making its way over to the flash-to=
-pass/dimmer switch, causing your lights to blink? Do they blink 'on=
9; or 'off', and does the horn also blow??<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Be aware that the headlight circuit is not fused or even protected by a c=
ircuit breaker, so? you could be treading in dangerous waters. You'll s=
ee the brown wires are a direct connection between the battery and the head=
light switch, and also provide the 12v power to the purple circuit which is=
the 'always' on fuse (horn, glove box, hazard flashers).? So this =
is all definitely related.?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sloane??From: 6pack &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
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: Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:13 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry I was not too specific on describing my problem.? It=
is the headlights that blink when I press the horn button.? I've had t=
he car for 18 years,? daily driver, never had an electrical issue until now=
,? other than a badstarter and alternator.??<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A. G=
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