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Re: [6pack] Ethanol gasoline blends,stabilizer

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Subject: Re: [6pack] Ethanol gasoline blends,stabilizer
From: "Jerry Shaw" <slowtoaccept@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:28:29 -0400
Vance
Every study by serious scientific analysts confirms that cultivating crops to
produce ethanol is the dumb. National Academy of Sciences a couple years ago
concluded that both ethanol from corn and even biodiesel from soybeans was not
a good idea, given the decline of the water table, the reduction in
cultivatable land for food, the cost to produce nitrogen fertilizer (uses lots
of natural gas), and now the clearing of the rain forests along the Amazon in
Brazil to produce sugar cane for ethanol.

So placating the Sierra Club...I think not.

And you are quite right, it has less beneficial effect on atomospheric
pollution than MTBE that it replaced.

 I won't broach politics here, but the causes for this debacle are pretty
obvious, and the only green involved is the color of money.

Jerry





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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:34:49 -0700
From: "Navarrette, Vance" <vance.navarrette@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Ethanol gasoline blends,stabilizer
To: <forzion@maine.rr.com>, "Bob" <rpeglow@optonline.net>
Cc: 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>, Craig <wensley_Tr@comcast.net>
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Dave.


  Just to add "fuel to the fire"... hah-hah-hah! I crack myself up
sometimes. Wheeee.....

Now where was I? Oh yeah... Depending on whose study you
believe, more energy is consumed to make a gallon of ethanol than is
recovered through burning it. (Petroleum, fertilizers, processing
energy, etc).

Bottom line, JUST SAY NO!!!

Unfortunately, not an option where I live. The Oregon
legislature in their infinite wisdom has decreed that all gas in the
state use 10% Ethanol. I wish I could feed my TR6 the good stuff, 100%
petroleum as nature intended (snicker). But noooo... We must be green.

I should also mention that there is a growing body of evidence
that says there is no net environmental benefit. Even the EPA is
agreeing that it has been a boondoggle. Modern cars with O2 sensors
simply fatten up the mixture and so negate any benefit of extra oxygen
in the fuel. <Sigh>

The only remaining reason for us to cling to this waste of time,
money, and energy is as a fat subsidy to the corn farmers and as a bit
of political posturing to placate the Sierra Club. I would not mind it
so much, except my beloved TR risks becoming a dead bug on the
windshield of the SUV that is our Government. Splat.


    Vance Navarrette
    Cogito Ergo Zoom
    I think, therefore I go fast
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