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Re: Voltage to coil

To: mblunsfordsr@yahoo.com, 6pack@autox.team.net, vance.navarrette@intel.com
Subject: Re: Voltage to coil
From: DANMAS@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 22:44:43 EDT
Michael Lundsford wrote:
 
"Would someone out there enlighten us on the coil voltage issue.  It  was my 
understanding that unless your coil had an internal ballast you needed an  
external ballast, either through the old fashoned ballast resistor or through  
the resistor wire built into later models.  I have the pertronix ignition  in 
mine with a ballast resistor and it began to stall at stop lights when the  
RPMs 
got down around 800.  After a lot of head scratching I discovered that  the 
new coil I recently installed had an internal ballast and, since I had a  
ballast resistor also I was reducing the voltage twice.  I just bypassed  the 
external ballast and the car now runs fine.  Is this line of reasoning  correct 
or 
is this just another example of Lucas electric being FM."
 
and Vance Navarrette wrote:
 
"While it is possible to have the ballast resistor in the coil
itself,  that would mean that the coil would have three terminals on it,
so that the  ballast can be bypassed during starting. I have never heard
of an internally  ballasted coil, but that doesn't mean they don't exist."
 
We need to stop thinking about voltage and start thinking about current.  The 
maximum current a set of points can switch over a long period of time is  
about 4 amps. On a 12 volt system, this means the coil (and ballast) resistance 
 
should be about 3 ohms. A set of points will burn out in about 1000 miles if 
the  current exceeds 4 amps by very much. 
 
To hold the current to 4 amps or less, you can either use a ballast  resistor 
with a low resistance coil, or use a high resistance coil alone. A low  
resistance coil would have about 1 1/2 ohms, so the ballast resister would need 
 to 
be about the same. A high resistance coil would be about 3 ohms.
 
In the earlier days, before all the pollution controls were added, our cars  
didn't have a ballast resister; they used a 3 ohm coil. When the cars got hard 
 to start along around '73/'74, they went to a coil/ballast setup for the 
sole  purpose of being able to bypass the ballast on startup. By removing  
(bypassing) the ballast resister while the engine was cranking, the current  
through 
the coil exceeds the 4 amp max briefly, giving a hotter spark for  starting. 
 
On our cars, the ballast resister is in the form of an iron wire, rather  
than a discrete resister. If you look at the pink/white ballast wire, you'll 
see  
that it is not copper like the other wires. Iron wire has the property of 
having  more resistance as it heats up. On initial startup, even after the 
ballast is  switched back in the circuit, the coil will draw more current than 
it 
will after  the ballast wire heats up from the current through it.
 
On an internal ballasted coil, part of the coil winding is also made  of 
iron, providing less resistance on startup than on running. It is still  a two 
terminal device.
 
At just about every TR6 car show I go to, I see at least 2 - 3 cars with a  
double ballast - the factory ballast wire and an added-on discrete ballast  
resister. If you have a late model TR6, you should check your coil/ballast 
setup  
to make sure you aren't double ballasting!
 
There's a lot more to it than that, but I hope this helps a bit.
 
Dan Masters

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