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Re: steel braided fuel line

To: "Robert M. Lang" <lang@isis.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: steel braided fuel line
From: Jim Jones <jimjcmo@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 10:24:53 -0800 (PST)
Ouch!

Never mind!

JJ

--- "Robert M. Lang" <lang@isis.mit.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Jim Jones wrote:
> 
> > Hello, '6ers!
> 
> Howdy.
>  
> > I was wondering if there are any ready-made kits
> that
> > replace the stock rubber fuel line with a braided
> > stainless steel fuel line. I know the fuel
> pressure is
> > quite low, so the need for the upgrade is make the
> > motor look cool!
> 
> I am not aware of a kit for this. You are correct,
> the fuel pressure on a
> stock car is quite low, maybe 1.5 psi. The problem
> with converting to
> brainded stainless is that from necessity, you need
> to convert to AN style
> fittings. You can use braided stainless with barbed
> hose fittings, but
> WHY? 
> 
> > If no such item exists, has anyone done this?
> 
> I have routed braided stainless for all the fuel
> lines on the race car.
> The job is fairly easy to do, but you have to be
> patient. For example,
> prying a hose fitting off when using a sharp knife
> can result in punture
> wounds (heaven knows how the bleeding stopped in the
> absence of a
> qualified MD and stitching, but I digress). Also,
> the braided stainless
> sheathing is N-A-S-T-Y and you will get lots of
> little cuts and slivers if
> you are not extremely careful handling it. And you
> need a very sharp
> fine-toothed hack saw to cut the hose.
> 
> The big challenge for doing this conversion with a
> Tr6 is that the fuel
> lines are _tiny_. The smallest AN style hose for the
> job is AN6 which is
> 3/8" ID. The other challenge is that you have to
> adapt the carbs (and
> possibly the fuel pump) to AN. The carb would need
> careful braizing and
> fuel pump wouild have to be drilled out and fitted
> with NPT to AN
> adapters.
> 
> It's doable, but your best bet is to replace
> everything. While I was at
> it, I'd change out all the 1/4" pipe with larger
> (like 5/16 or 3/8) pipe.
> 
> The other big deal with AN fittings and braided
> stainless is cost. My fuel
> cell installation used over $200 in hose ($1.90 a
> foot, if memory serves)
> and fittings that cost between $4 and $20 each. This
> stuff adds up fast!
> 
> If you want it to look kool for a bit less cost but
> still be very safe,
> Aeroquip and Earl's etc. sell "socketless" fittings
> (the hose ends are AN,
> but you don't thread the fittings together, you just
> push them on the
> barbs). The hose is very high quality and you don't
> need clamps. This
> stuff is about 1/2 the cost of the braided stainless
> stuff. I use the
> socketless stuff for all my breather lines, etc. The
> hose that I buy is
> blue, but there may be other colors.
> 
> Last tidbit - get a copy of the book Nuts, Bolts and
> Fasteners (and
> plumbing) by Carrol Smith (aka "Screw to Win"). This
> book is really
> interesting to read and it shows a lot of the
> fastening systems in use, so
> it makes it easier to replate to HOW to use this
> stuff as opposed to
> looking in the catalogues. 
> 
> > =====
> > Jim Jones
> > '72 Emerald
> 
> regards,
> rml
>
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