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Re: oversteer, understeer, neutral steer...thoughts, theories,

To: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs@mindspring.com>,
Subject: Re: oversteer, understeer, neutral steer...thoughts, theories,
From: "Richard Seaton" <rsh17@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 21:14:55 -0600
Mike,
 I can't imagine that the factory would "design" the car to understeer. To me
this seems more dangerous than the oversteer. I'm not that great of a driver,
typical to average, but the understeer is an awful thing. The front goes where
it wants, usually plowing straight through a corner. I realize that most of
the cars now days are front wheel drives (cheaper to make), but I'm not sure
how they handle. I assume most do understeer since most of the weight is up
front, but I've never looked into this or driven many front wheel drives.
  I'm  pretty sure Triumph didn't design this into their cars, probably just
worked out that way. Such a heavy and long front end with the 6 in place. Are
the TR3-4's like this?

Just my thoughts on this though,
Richard Seton
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Munson
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 8:57 PM
To: 'Jim Swarthout'; 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: oversteer, understeer, neutral steer...thoughts, theories,
comments

Jim,

See if you can find the book "How to make your car handle" by Fred Puhn
sold by HP Books. There are so many ways of doing it and even saying it
that I wouldn't know where to begin. Basically there was nothing in the
market to meet my needs so I had to design my own system using NASCAR
style bars. My system was in a Grassroots Motorsports article featuring
a TR6 several years ago.
All cars come from the factory to understeer (front slide first) because
the designers know that the average guy or gal doesn't know what to do
with an oversteering (rear slides first) car.

Mike Munson

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-6pack@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-6pack@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Swarthout
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:22 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: oversteer, understeer, neutral steer...thoughts, theories,
comments

To the list,

What happens to your TR-6 when you "put it" into a corner? What happens
at the threshold when the tires begin to slide? Does it over-steer,
under-steer, or is it neutral...how do "you" know how to set-up your
suspension?

Jim Swarthout

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