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Re: Connections on starter motor solenoid

To: "Pim Alferink" <fam.alferink@zonnet.nl>
Subject: Re: Connections on starter motor solenoid
From: "J. Garruba" <jgarruba@ematic.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:24:51 -0500
Pim,

    The ballast resistor on our cars is actually a piece of resistive wire
from the key to the pos ignition terminal.  Just measure the voltage at the
Pos ignition terminal, you will find 5 v there as well.


Regards,
Joseph Garruba


-----Original Message-----
From: Pim Alferink <fam.alferink@zonnet.nl>
To: J Garruba <jgarruba@ematic.com>
Date: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: Connections on starter motor solenoid


>Thanks for the explanation. Sounds plausible.
>I have the original ignition system.
>The car starts real, real good. Coldest of days, engine turns over once and
>it runs, even without the wire being attached.
> Maybe I don't have a ballast resistor?
>
>Note that the 5V is measured when the engine is off!
>Key turned to running position (charge + oil lamp comes on. Then I measure
>the 5V on this wire.
>
>I got puzzled too. The car is of 73. Again, maybe the ballast resistor etc.
>is not being hooked up? I believe I have 12V on the coil all the time!
>
>Pim
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J Garruba [mailto:jgarruba@ematic.com]
>> Sent: zondag 18 maart 2001 19:28
>> To: Pim Alferink
>> Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: Connections on starter motor solenoid
>>
>>
>> Pim,
>>
>>     That is the starter bypass terminal.  When the car is cranked
>> a contact
>> is completed which allows 12 volts to go directly to the ignition coil,
>> bypassing the balast resistance wire.  (Normally the coil only gets about
>> 6v)You will notice that the car has a tendancy to start, just as
>> you release
>> the key from the start position when there is a problem with this
>> wire.  If
>> you have an electronic ign there may be changes to this circuit, as it is
>> used primarily in points type systems which lack other means of current
>> control for the coil.  I don't know why you see 5v here when the car is
>> running, unless the connection is made to the ign coil positive terminal.
>> (you said it was disconnected)  I would guess this is a problem in the
>> starter solenoid, but I have never seen a failure like this.  What type
of
>> ign does your car have?  Does it start easy?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joseph Garruba
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Pim Alferink <fam.alferink@zonnet.nl>
>> To: 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 3:14 AM
>> Subject: Connections on starter motor solenoid
>>
>>
>> > Dear listers,
>> > Is there anyone who can shine some light on the electrical
>> connections on
>> > the starter motor solenoid?
>> > I am specifically interested in the function of the smallest
>> wire attached
>> > to the solenoid spade labeled "IGN".
>> > I have been using the car for more then a year without that
>> this wire was
>> > attached (the connector broke from the cable a long time ago). Never
any
>> > problem.
>> > Testing the voltage on the wire, I found that it is about 5V
>> when the key
>> is
>> > in the normal position for a running engine.
>> > Questions: what is the function of this connection and why is it 5V?
>> >
>> > (P.S. See, LUCAS not ain't that bad. Even without connections it works
>> > wonders.)
>> >
>> > Pim Alferink
>> > Pimento CF1362U (now O), with recent Koni rear shocks.
>> >
>>
>
>


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